Poll: Should Gary McKinnon be extradited to the US for hacking?

Should he?

  • Yes

    Votes: 232 19.5%
  • No

    Votes: 823 69.3%
  • I don't like poles

    Votes: 132 11.1%

  • Total voters
    1,187
You could argue that it wasn't his luck that the US systems were so poorly secured. It was an act of stupidity on their part, not an act of luck on his.
 
Hacked into US government computers? who cares, if anything he has helped them by showing how crap there security was/is. Oh and 70 years? haha i lol'd ****ing america.
 
Obviously a very clever person, as I doubt they would have had as little security as he has mentioned.

They should recruit him to help secure them.
 
Nobody should be extradited under this treaty until the yanks sign their half of the treaty so it goes both ways, instead of making a mockery of us as they always do.
 
Wasn't it pretty common knowledge that he just tried a few common admin passwords?
Yah gotta love "common knowledge". Isn't it common knowledge amongst any OAP who has ever opened an on-line bank account that you should use a secure password, let alone amongst US Government System Administrators?

Isn't part of his defense "The systems were wide open anyway".
It may well be, although I am not quite sure how it would constitute a defence if a burglar were to say that he was justified in robbing your house because you were a complete moron and had left your front-door key inside the letterbox on a piece of knicker elastic?

Perhaps it is only a reluctance to assist in Gary McKinnon's defence that prevents the US Government admitting that they typically use "password" as their admin passwords?
 
Doesn't matter about reform, this is denial of an asset to foreign powers, while he's locked up he can't do it again. When it's security at stake that's all that's important.

Never thought of it like that, but you're absolutely right. In which case, shouldn't we be doing our best to hold onto him, and deploy him at GCHQ?
 
Didn't Kevin Mitnick only serve around 4 years for his hacking? the fact they're talking of a sentance up to 70 years for this guy is quite shocking.
 
There will more than likely have been some form of disclaimer message when logging into the networks in question. If so, then he willingly accessed these systems rather than by accident.

Regardless of how long ago it was its still against the law.

EDIT: The punishment should be reduced however, half of the 70 years should be served by the people that left them 'open' with either weak passwords and/or loopholes.
 
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Never thought of it like that, but you're absolutely right. In which case, shouldn't we be doing our best to hold onto him, and deploy him at GCHQ?

depends if he really is good, if he is very good then hell yes keep him for ourselves. if he's not then it would probably be better to gain brownie points with the yanks by letting him go.

sucks for him but politically there's so much more than just the crime to think about.
 
But how come a rapist gets 4-7 usually, He's gaining entry without permission too.

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Yah gotta love "common knowledge". Isn't it common knowledge amongst any OAP who has ever opened an on-line bank account that you should use a secure password, let alone amongst US Government System Administrators?

Pretty much, I would guess there were several people disciplined in the departments concerned, but that would be a guess.

It may well be, although I am not quite sure how it would constitute a defence if a burglar were to say that he was justified in robbing your house because you were a complete moron and had left your front-door key inside the letterbox on a piece of knicker elastic?

So why are you arguing against his extradition? He broke the law, knowing he was breaking the law, what exactly is the problem? Does't really matter how easy or hard it was.

Perhaps it is only a reluctance to assist in Gary McKinnon's defence that prevents the US Government admitting that they typically use "password" as their admin passwords?

Who knows, something that would probably come out in any court case.

As to getting 70 years, sure, it may well be the maximum sentence but it is pretty unlikely he will get it. Should have taken the original offer...
 
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So why are you arguing against his extradition? He broke the law, knowing he was breaking the law, what exactly is the problem? Does't really matter how easy or hard it was.
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I wouldn't have a problem with his being tried in the UK; I do have a problem with his being extradited to a barbaric country like America to be banged up for 70 years for embarrassing them.

The British computer hacker who spectacularly cracked the Pentagon system and embarrassed the American defence establishment now faces extradition to the United States, where a prosecutor has said he would like to see him "fry".
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[Appeal Court Judges Lord Justice Maurice Kay and Mr Justice Goldring said] "We make no secret of the fact that we view with a degree of distaste the way in which the American authorities are alleged to have approached the plea bargain negotiations."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/apr/04/hacking.internetcrime
 
I wouldn't have a problem with his being tried in the UK; I do have a problem with his being extradited to a barbaric country like America to be banged up for 70 years for embarrassing them.

Maybe he should have thought about that before he want hacking through their systems? As poster boys for injustice go, he isn't doing overly well considering he is actually guilty.
 
The law will though.

Yes i know i was being a ltitle pedantic an ot :P.

Personally i think he should be extradited for breaking the law, plain and simple.

The only thing im iffy on is the length of time, and whether there would any leniency shown towards his disability, to me the crime does not fit the punishment being doled out.
 
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