Poll: Should Gary McKinnon be extradited to the US for hacking?

Should he?

  • Yes

    Votes: 232 19.5%

  • No

    Votes: 823 69.3%

  • I don't like poles

    Votes: 132 11.1%
  • Total voters
    1,187
Energize said:
The fact that it's possible to get a 70 yr sentence for such a crime (a victimless crime I might add) is ridiculous.
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Sometimes these things can scale a bit too well. It isn't a victimless crime if it inadvertantly causes 10 thousands deaths.

But personally, I don't want the americans to get hold of him, he should be hired by MI5 :D
 
We should tell the yanks to get stuffed and whisk him off to some secret military facility deep in the Gloucestershire countryside (well, Cheltenham :D ) and get him hacking the crap out of other countries for us!
 
From what I can make out he hasn't done anything that great hacking wise - mostly stuff that most technically inclined people are capable of doing but are too sane to do.
 
AJUK said:
We should tell the yanks to get stuffed and whisk him off to some secret military facility deep in the Gloucestershire countryside (well, Cheltenham :D ) and get him hacking the crap out of other countries for us!
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You do realise that the SysAdmins of many "other countries" may actually change the default passwords, don't you? :p
 
Whilst awaiting the "reserved" decision of the Judicial Review of the Home Office's decision deliberately to ignore the Asperger's Syndrome aspects of the Gary McKinnon extradition case his legal team have applied for another Judicial Review.

This challenges the decision by the Crown Prosecution Service and the Director of Public Prosecutions, not to prosecute Gary under the Computer Misuse Act 1990 here in the UK.

This would give him a chance of a fairer trial than in the USA, and, if found guilty, a more proportionate prison sentence, to be served in the UK. Prosecution for the same alleged offences in the UK, would take precedence over any extradition to the USA, as is usual under international extradition law.

http://freegary.org.uk/
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There is also a link to an e-petition to get the Government to act to protect people with autism and Asperger syndrome from extradition on this site.
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to lead his Government in providing protection against extradition for people with autism and Asperger syndrome in the criminal justice system, particularly in the case of Gary McKinnon.
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The deadline for signing it is just three days away; after that, New Labour will harvest your email address and send the boys around whilst totally ignoring the e-petition anyhow ;)
 
Britons face a growing online threat from criminals, terrorists and hostile states, according to the UK's first cyber security strategy.
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Among those the government has turned to for help on cyber crime are former illegal hackers, [cyber security minister] Lord West said.

He added that the government listening post GCHQ at Cheltenham had not employed any "ultra, ultra criminals" but needed the expertise of former "naughty boys" he said.

"You need youngsters who are deep into this stuff... If they have been slightly naughty boys, very often they really enjoy stopping other naughty boys," he said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8118348.stm
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I guess that this means that New Labour may rethink their enthusiasm for the idea of handing Gary McKinnon over to the Americans; after all, he did manage to hack into the US's highly secure defence network, didn't he?
 
stockhausen said:
I guess that this means that New Labour may rethink their enthusiasm for the idea of handing Gary McKinnon over to the Americans; after all, he did manage to hack into the US's highly secure defence network, didn't he?
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He broke in by sheer luck, not skill. He'd be way out of his depth in a hardcore hacking environment.

DampCat said:
Unless they consider him an Ultra, Ultra Criminal. Which is clearly how they're treating him.
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No, they're treating him like a regular criminal. He's not even in detention at the moment.
 
I don't know if this has been asked already.

But how come a rapist gets 4-7 usually, He's gaining entry without permission too. But surely in a more serious way

Yet this guy was looking at 70 years o.O
 
Evangelion said:
No, they're treating him like a regular criminal. He's not even in detention at the moment.
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Only because he's fighting it. He's facing 70 years in a US prison. 70 years in prison is a pretty hardcore sentence. You can argue against that all you like, which i know you're going to because it's what you do.

The punishment is completely out of line of the crime comitted, which again predictably you wont agree with, but it is. Therefor, he is being treated like a particularly dangerous and notorious criminal. Or, to use the cringeworthy vocabulary of that article, a Cyber Ultra Criminal.
 
stockhausen said:
You seem remarkably well informed on Gary McKinnon's methods . . . or are making things up as you go along . . . much more likely.
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Wasn't it pretty common knowledge that he just tried a few common admin passwords? Isn't part of his defense "The systems were wide open anyway".
 
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