RvP is a goal scorer, 20 last season!
TO be fair thats all competitions, Bergkamp was scoring above a 0.5 goals per game ratio in Holland and only approached that in one year at Arsenal, other years he had near enough 30 appearances with less than 5 goals in the league.
20 goals in the league is pretty different to 20 in all competitions, RVP isn't an out and out goalscorer but then he wasn't a Hunterlaar/RVN type scorer in Holland either.
The other guys, Berg's included, scored FAR higher in Holland than anywhere else. Rvn is one of the few to score similarly to how he did in Holland, but then he's a poacher and always has been, its fairly difficult to compare different types of players in different leagues. Alves for instance, scored loads at a top team in Holland, and went to a, lets be honest, not free scoring or brilliant supporting midfielders Boro team so its unlikely he'd score as many, though he also hasn't looked like he would have gotten more if he was at a top 4 club.
Barry wouldn't walk into the Utd midfield because, he's an offensive player and has been for years, with Carrick absolutely horrible defensively he needs a strong defensive player alongside him, when he plays with Anderson he's horrible playing the deeper role of the two.
Barry is very good though and frankly, his crossing is still world class, his cross to set up the goal against Utd was utterly superb, one of the best in the season and he can do that consistantly, he could make a very good left winger at many clubs, infact Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal all lack great left wingers(ignoring Rooney as he's not a natural left winger probably). He gets more goals and assists in his years as a wide left than Nani, Giggs of late, Kalou/Malouda.
Even for England alongside Lampard he gets forward a LOT with Lampard taking responsibility and dropping deep very often, and Barry looked defensively weak in most of englands game, I have no idea why people consider him defensively strong, for years his game has been offensive.
