co-op ID rant

vincent1989 · 16 Jul 2009 at 07:50

deuse said:
I am 50+ I wish someone would ask me for ID

it wont be long

it's gone from 18 to 25 in 4 years

SB118 · 16 Jul 2009 at 08:19

[TW]Fox;14487354 said:
Get over it and carry ID. I am 25 as well and get ID'd everywhere.

^^this.

Thanks to regulation and legislation, you aren't to be trusted. If you say you are old enough to buy that product, you are lying until you can prove otherwise.

Personally i've not carried ID for about 10 years now and never been asked for it either.

Burnsy2023 · 16 Jul 2009 at 08:20

I have never had any problem showing ID when buying age restricted products, but I would not accept my personal details being recorded. That information is sensitive and this sort of thing makes you vulnerable to ID theft.

If they take personal details, surely this needs to be logged with the information commissioner?

Dave M · 16 Jul 2009 at 08:23

First and only time I got ID'd was last year, 31

I always keep my license in my wallet (photo part anyway) so no problem - she was quite embarrassed when she read the dob on the card though

This was Asda and there was no suggestion of taking down any details, given how easy ID theft is I'd rather not give people my real dob and address. Name and year, sure, but no more.

Freefaller · 16 Jul 2009 at 08:34

Isn't this in breach of the DPA?

-Ad- · 16 Jul 2009 at 08:35

[TW]Fox;14487354 said:
Get over it and carry ID. I am 25 as well and get ID'd everywhere. Its life, just carry a drivers license or something. I got ID'd for coke last night.

By Skippy in his tinted 5 series ?

/edited

Getting ID'd shouldn't cause you any emotions at all, but trying to note down your personal details clearly is not right in the slightest and they have no right to address, DOB etc. What next, national insurance number and a copy of a bank statement

Nearly got Id'd for a lottery ticket on saturday by some old lady in sainsburys at the tobaconist, the day after my 24th birthday. New record for me. She cocked her head, looked at me, then said 'you do sort of look over 16'. All I did was point to the copious amounts of party alcohol in the trolley and smile, and she seemed to mutter something then ask me for the monies

Lil old me · 16 Jul 2009 at 08:39

vincent1989 said:
that's stupid, if one of the biggest supermarkets in the UK can get away with a short description, time and date then why does your store/regional/managing director feel they need more? as far as i'[m aware it would only be a breach or personal rights/ data protection if you didn't ask the person if it was ok to take their details down first, i personally wouldn't shop at your shop (but then DVDs are the only age restricted thing i buy and i usually just buy them online)

I dont know, I can't answer your question. The point I make though, is that it's not my fault I have to id you and take the details. no one wants to hold you up and have to write down a load of carp in a book. It doesnt make my day any more fun, but these things come from further up. If you want to complain, go to management not to the assistant.

osc89er · 16 Jul 2009 at 08:39

Telescopi said:
First and only time I got ID'd was last year, 31

I always keep my license in my wallet (photo part anyway) so no problem - she was quite embarrassed when she read the dob on the card though

This was Asda and there was no suggestion of taking down any details, given how easy ID theft is I'd rather not give people my real dob and address. Name and year, sure, but no more.

Yeah this kind of thing is a bit wierd sometimes.
When going into a pub a guy I know was id'd at 31 (father of one) and built like a man (not a teenager)
The thing of it is that he came into the pub with 20 students, average age 19 and some of whom were underage, and he was the only one asked for id.

Either the bouncers were stupid or they just wanted to know who the guy coming in with the kids was.

vincent1989 · 16 Jul 2009 at 08:43

Lil old me said:
I dont know, I can't answer your question. The point I make though, is that it's not my fault I have to id you and take the details. no one wants to hold you up and have to write down a load of carp in a book. It doesnt make my day any more fun, but these things come from further up. If you want to complain, go to management not to the assistant.

believe me i know, i've done it (worked on tills for a year and a half on and off), been called all the names under the sun for doing it and appreciate why it has to be done, but not to this extent, it's unnecessary

. it was more of a rhetorical question anyway

Locky · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:13

I'm 28 years old, and I got Id in Morrisons for beer, I just took it as a compliment

what was funny the girl that Id me was younger than me

etom · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:28

yeah they do the same in the co-op down here. Was in one time for 8 pack of beer or something (hardly chavs in tracksuits buying wkd) and they wouldn't accept my student id. So a friend went and bought it, and they told him that he couldn't buy it as he was my friend? luckily the manager used to go to karate and he came out and gave the old bag and telling off for being a ****.

antijoke · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:30

You got asked fo ID. So what. Deal with it like the man you want to be treated like.

:rolleyes:

starfighter · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:33

Happened to me at coop also.

I gave them loads of abuse, Asking ID when I am 23 is bad enough but to start writing down my details without telling mye why.

I assumed this person ebhind the till was trying to forge my ID. I had to snatch it back off him.

Dave M · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:34

etom said:
yeah they do the same in the co-op down here. Was in one time for 8 pack of beer or something (hardly chavs in tracksuits buying wkd) and they wouldn't accept my student id. So a friend went and bought it, and they told him that he couldn't buy it as he was my friend? luckily the manager used to go to karate and he came out and gave the old bag and telling off for being a ****.

The manager was in the wrong to tell her off for doing her job - if he wanted to he could vouch for you and serve you himself, but over ruling her like that is stupid considering it's his business she's looking out for.

And who says "****" over the age of 15, are you sure your old enough to buy alcohol?

etom · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:44

Telescopi said:
The manager was in the wrong to tell her off for doing her job - if he wanted to he could vouch for you and serve you himself, but over ruling her like that is stupid considering it's his business she's looking out for.

And who says "****" over the age of 15, are you sure your old enough to buy alcohol?

the point is i had an ID, my friend had his driving license and we still couldn't get served?

Dave M · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:48

etom said:
the point is i had an ID, my friend had his driving license and we still couldn't get served?

If co-op don't accept student union as id then you haven't got valid id, if your friend is buying on your behalf his id doesn't matter.

If it was a trading standards sting the store could lose their license and she's obviously only following store policy (they get abuse from people like you for doing it, clearly they wouldn't bother if they didn't have to), she could be fined herself or lose her job over it never mind the store being fined and not being able to sell alcohol anymore.

rypt · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:49

Tute said:
It's supposed to be done. We got a right rollicking from Head Office because we didn't keep ours up to date.

Don't like it? Talk to your MP. These rules are made at government level.

THERE IS NO LAW IN THE UK THAT STATES YOU HAVE TO LOG WHO YOU SELL TO.

The only thing the UK law states is that you cannot sell to under-age people and that you have a couple of strike policy with respect to your license to sell the goods. How you enforce that is completely up to the shop.
There is no legal requirement to ID people who look under 25 or look under 21 or look under 30, all of these are store policies in order to "comply" with the do not sell to under-age people law - and are stupid.

TheVoice · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:53

etom said:
the point is i had an ID, my friend had his driving license and we still couldn't get served?

A student union card is not valid ID, and most stores operate a policy whereby if a group of people are buying alcohol, everyone in the group gets asked to present ID. Otherwise there's the suspicion that the person with ID is supplying alcohol to those who are underage.

xb8browney · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:53

Happened to me in "Booze Busters" 2 years ago.

robmiller · 16 Jul 2009 at 09:54

Freefaller said:
Isn't this in breach of the DPA?

No, not really. So long as they're not disclosing it to anyone else and are keeping it for a reasonable amount of time, and so long as you have access to it, they'll be fine.

The DPA just restricts how companies can store personal details, it doesn't restrict them from doing it altogether.