**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**

I don't think he'd be a good signing for a fair few teams outside the top 4 on his wages, I mean he's not vastly better than these:

Pavlechenko, Bent, Keane, Defoe
Bellendamy, Robinho, Adebayor, Tevez, Santa Cruz
Saha, Yakubu, Jo(?)
Cole, Ashton
McCarthy, Vieri
Carew, Agbonhalor, Heskey
Crouch, Nugent, Kanu, Utaka

I've always thought him to be overrated, I mean if you look at his career record, it's pretty ordinary, he's never scored more than 11 league goals in a season (and he needed over 30 games to achieve even that feat).

He had one good game against Arsenal in the Champions League which clouds people's judgement a bit I think, he's way too inconsistent for my liking.
 
HangTime said:
I don't think he'd be a good signing for a fair few teams outside the top 4 on his wages, I mean he's not vastly better than these:

Pavlechenko, Bent, Keane, Defoe
Bellendamy, Robinho, Adebayor, Tevez, Santa Cruz
Saha, Yakubu, Jo(?)
Cole, Ashton
McCarthy, Vieri
Carew, Agbonhalor, Heskey
Crouch, Nugent, Kanu, Utaka

I've always thought him to be overrated, I mean if you look at his career record, it's pretty ordinary, he's never scored more than 11 league goals in a season (and he needed over 30 games to achieve even that feat).

He had one good game against Arsenal in the Champions League which clouds people's judgement a bit I think, he's way too inconsistent for my liking.
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I reckon he's better (or less injury prone) than all of those I've bolded and arguably a few others.

He's not meant to be your main goal getter as well, I agree he's inconsistent but he still gets around 10 a season which isn't bad.

You gotta remember as well in his first two seasons at Newcastle we flirted with relegation and in his third actually got relegated, and he's still got a 1 in 3 goal record.
 
Considering we've only got Vieri on trial I feel its unfair to include him in that list. I would however love Martins at Blackburn. He's a similar type of player to roberts, but with more of an eye for goal. He's also younger and as much as I like Roberts, I wouldn't mind him being phased out if we brought Martins in.
 
Chong Warrior said:
Crystal ball? or plonker? :D
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You failed to consider two other possibilities, that IS Hunterlaar, or its another guy called Hunterlaar and has his own name on the shirt :p


As for that list of strikers, Martins is, any day of the year, even while injured, with 2 broken legs, a better footballer than Heskey is.

As for Vieri is old despite how class he might have been, he also went passed his original trial without an offer and is on an extended trial, which to me says at first glace he isn't appearing that good and he's not a certainty to get a contract. Considering the club really has one striker, I can't see Vieri exactly setting the PL alight, can you? Though personally I'd love to see him have some fantastic games and hope its more his fitness/work ethic at question and that we'll see some pure quality touches and bits of magick on the field as he comes off the bench as a super(unfit) sub.

I agree with all the other highlighted players although maybe we might differ on if they are in bold because of being worse, or being more injury prone I don't know ;)

Though being a Gooner I'd also say he's better than Ade :p
 
Gustov said:
:rolleyes:

2003/2004 Premiership 2nd 38 24 7 7 67 30 79
2002/2003 Premiership 4th 38 19 10 9 68 38 67
2001/2000 Premiership 6th 38 17 13 8 66 38 64
2000/2001 Premiership 6th 38 17 10 11 68 45 61
1999/2000 Premiership 5th 38 18 11 9 53 34 65
1998/1999 Premiership 3rd 38 20 15 3 57 30 75
1997/1998 Premiership 4th 38 20 3 15 71 43 63

An assumption that way too many people make. I get Spurs fans trying to convince me they were on a level playing field as Chelsea before Abromovich came.

Ye, ye...
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Doesnt that make an average of 5th :p
 
BBC Transfer Gossip said:
Manchester City will up their bid to £40m to try to prise centre-back John Terry out of Chelsea's grasp.
Full story: Daily Mail

Toulouse striker Andre-Pierre Gignac has emerged as a target for Arsenal as Gunners boss Arsene Wenger looks to replace forward Emmanuel Adebayor, who has moved to Manchester City.
Full story: Daily Mail

Hull City are keen on Liverpool striker Andriy Voronin but want the Ukraine international on loan rather than as a permanent signing.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Manchester United are trying to negotiate down the price of Gremio midfielder Douglas Costa, while Chelsea, Real Madrid and Villarreal have entered the fray for the Brazilian.
Full story: Guardian

Everton are battling with Fulham, Ajax and PSV Eindhoven for Swedish Under-21 midfielder Rasmus Elm, who plays for Kalmar.
Full story: Daily Mail

Fulham have been offered the chance to sign Juventus midfielder Chritian Poulsen, who has turned down a £6m move to Fenerbahce. Full story: Times

AC Milan boss Leonardo has left the door open to Los Angeles Galaxy midfielder David Beckham returning to the San Siro after the England international's successful six-month loan at the club earlier this year.
Full story: Independent

Blackburn's flirtation with signing former Inter Milan striker Christian Vieri has ended, with Rovers manager Sam Allardyce believing the Italian is too unfit.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp is set to wrap up an £11m deal for Sheffield United full-backs Kyle Naughton and Kyle Walker. (Daily Mirror)

Nottingham Forest are close to bringing in Tottenham defender Chris Gunter, Preston midfielder Paul McKenna and QPR striker Dexter Blackstock for a combined £4m.
Full story: Daily Star


OTHER GOSSIP
Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard has urged fans not to criticise club "legend" and team-mate John Terry if he decides to leave the Stamford Bridge outfit. The England defender has been targeted by Manchester City.
Full story: Daily Star

Manchester City striker Craig Bellamy says he has no plans to leave the club, despite the increased competition for places up front following the signing of Carlos Tevez, Roque Santa Cruz and Emmanuel Adebayor.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill says Liverpool did not lodge a bid for Gareth Barry before the midfielder's move to Manchester City.
Full story: Daily Express


AND FINALLY
There may have been up to 80,000 fans at the Bernabeu to greet former Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo at his Real Madrid unveiling but only 10,000 will be able to attend as he makes his debut against Shamrock Rovers on Monday.
Full story: Daily Mail
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Hull City are keen on Liverpool striker Andriy Voronin but want the Ukraine international on loan rather than as a permanent signing.
Full story: Daily Mirror
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Personally I hope he's sold. He's got some qualities (game intelligence) but I couldn't stand the thought of Benitez rotating him throughout the season. The frustration was unbearable watching him in the past. He could be a real lazy ****** at times.

No one heard anything about Alonso yet? Was surprised to see him sitting on the bench yesterday.
 
daz.wallace said:
As far as I am aware it run out at the weekend just gone, not sure how acurate that is though
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Same, read something in probably fridays press about it running out this weekend, was a pretty hefty chunk of the price they would have to pass on. Though its completely retarded to not put the very last second of the transfer window as end of the clause as people will just do what Benitez did, and its likely why he wanted so much extra cash.

Benitez and Redknapp are really getting on my nerves though, any other club that doesn't want a player usually sells for normal or under valued prices, with Ade we took the first bid given, we'd probably have taken less, if we'd come out and said we didn't want him anymore City would have bid less.

But both those two make it clear players are for sale, unwanted, easily replaceable, then say theres no way they'll sell them cheap. Redknapp going on about not selling Bent for anything less than they bought him for, despite bad mouthing him all season. Spurs overpaid, everyone knows but now they won't sell unless someone else does, its madness.

The more I think about Arsenal the more I want to spend big to bring in some English players, not because I want the club more english, just scared leaving it till the rule comes in(if it does) will leave us with far worse players at higher prices. Young/upson would be good buys, one first team, one cover/rotation. Or even a Lescott for not to ridiculous price would be good though very little chance of that.
 
FrankJH said:
When does the Alonso sell-on clause run out? Is this why Madrid havent tried that hard yet to get him?
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Ran out a few days ago.

I think Madrid are trying to unsettle him in the hope that he'll ask for a transfer and get him cheaper as a result. Alonso coming out and saying he won't ask for a transfer has pretty much ended that idea so if they want him they'll have to pay big for him.

drunkenmaster said:
Benitez and Redknapp are really getting on my nerves though, any other club that doesn't want a player usually sells for normal or under valued prices, with Ade we took the first bid given, we'd probably have taken less, if we'd come out and said we didn't want him anymore City would have bid less.

But both those two make it clear players are for sale, unwanted, easily replaceable, then say theres no way they'll sell them cheap.
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Benitez has made it clear he wants to keep Alonso.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
Benitez and Redknapp are really getting on my nerves though, any other club that doesn't want a player usually sells for normal or under valued prices, with Ade we took the first bid given, we'd probably have taken less, if we'd come out and said we didn't want him anymore City would have bid less.
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Benitez annoys you because he's trying to get the best price he can for a player he's repeatedly said he doesn’t want to sell?

I'd stay indoors mate, the world's full of people that try and do the best for themselves. Infact anyone that doesn’t is a bit of a moron tbh.
eggyoke said:
Personally I hope he's sold. He's got some qualities (game intelligence) but I couldn't stand the thought of Benitez rotating him throughout the season. The frustration was unbearable watching him in the past. He could be a real lazy ****** at times.

No one heard anything about Alonso yet? Was surprised to see him sitting on the bench yesterday.
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I'd be happy to see him go for free, but sadly it looks like he's going to be used the second choice striker this season. Let's hope Torres don't get injured.
 
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Wenger said:
"We must trust the players we have. It's a very important season for us and I believe we are in a very strong position," he said. "Big clubs lose big players. AC Milan have lost Kaka but will go on. Arsenal have lost big players before but we go on.

"We have also had positive messages - players like Robin van Persie and Cesc Fabregas are staying here.

"I believe we have a strong enough squad to meet the targets we have."
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:(. Surely last season proves the exact opposite. Even if Song is our first choice DM what happens when he gets injured. We have no cover whatsoever. I think we can get by without replacing Ade but we certainly need to bring in some other players, preferably a big name DM and some more cover at the back.
 
CliffyG said:
:(. Surely last season proves the exact opposite. Even if Song is our first choice DM what happens when he gets injured. We have no cover whatsoever. I think we can get by without replacing Ade but we certainly need to bring in some other players, preferably a big name DM and some more cover at the back.
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Aye, and after last summer I'd love to say that Wenger's got somebody in his hat...but..
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
I think Madrid are trying to unsettle him in the hope that he'll ask for a transfer and get him cheaper as a result. Alonso coming out and saying he won't ask for a transfer has pretty much ended that idea so if they want him they'll have to pay big for him.
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How could you suggest such a thing - Madrid would never counternance unsettling another club's player they are interested in!!!!! :D:D:D
 
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