**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**
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Soldato
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Show him the edit button lol
I didnt keep track of Senderos but apparently he had a mixed time there. Some good and some bad games. I personally (just my opinion again DM) hope that he sticks around as his experience in Italy could have only done him good.
. Need to get signing, first game in less than a week!
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Firstly, Rosicky might be a good friend of Cesc, however over 3 years how much has he been on the field? I'd LOVE it if Rosicky stays fit, but I'm not sure he will. Wenger and Rosicky thought his career might be over and we have no idea if his body will hold up in the season or if he can be as good as he was. He's no certainty to stay at the club. Of the people who are fit all season long and TRAIN with the team day in day out Eboue is one of his best friends.
Rosicky hasn't trained daily with Cesc for the past 18 months, well best part of 2 years. I said ANOTHER reason for him to leave, I didn't say one player goes and Fabregas goes so stop acting so dramatically.
Eboue is also much better than you rate him, but again, I never said he was the worlds best player, he is far better than the trio of turdity though. Eboue's not old, the other three will never, ever be as good as Eboue, they are simply bad players. Denilson has regressed rather than improved, he was a far better player 3 years ago.
I didn't say Arsenal can't survive with losing Eboue, nor Senderos for that matter, but shouldn't any club be looking to get rid of their WORST players before their decent players and certainly not their best players? Is that so wrong of me to suggest?
I don't think Eboue is our long term solution to DM, something I've said repeatedly, but as he's back up anyway, as he was fit for most of the season and last season was far better than Denilson so why didn't we play him. I still want to buy a DM, I was the first to be saying that in preseason and all year. I don't want Eboue to be playing DM, but he's still our best option right now while we don't have any.
Can you see the difference between reading what I say, and coming up with your own interpretation. Can you show me where I said Eboue should start every game in my last post, because you replied like I said that.
If I made a list today of the worst 5 players who played in the first team last year, he wouldn't be in that list, surely we should get rid of those others first.
Assuming Rosicky can't stay injury free, who exactly is first team at right wing, Theo is truly awful there, we have no other wingers with pace, we got caught on the break all season because of lack of pace in all midfield positions, no one got back to defend because they couldn't.
What truly great player have Arsenal lost in the past 5 years because of a ridiculous fee being offered? United have lost good players but usually for a ridiculous fee that helps them improve. Henry, Pires, Edu, Gilberto, Flamini, Diarra, Campbell, Reyes, Lauren, we lost these players for mostly, free transfers or incredibly low fee's for no reason. Would Utd have let Flamini who could have been held on a stupidly cheap wage get to that stage and released for nothing? never. Most clubs wouldn't have sold Henry for 16million, 40mil+ yes, 16mil wasn't worth it. Hell, Henry was on a contract that would still have him at the club, imagine selling him this year in great form, we'd get £35mil+ for him easily.
We need to be selling out worst players, improving the team and only selling top players for stupid amounts, not letting our best players walk out on free's because Wengers a *****.
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May as well bring this here.
Hopefully so - Eboue's had so many chances in all sorts of positions (titter) and continues to be a **** in all of them. His saving grace used to be the RB slot - but that's just not the case any more. So aye, get rid.
Senderos is weird. He's had lots of chances as well. I'd love to get money for him being that we don't need him with all our other CB's, and him and Gallas would be my preferances to leave.
However, I'd like to see him have one LAST chance. He can't have gone to Milan for a year, played alongside some of the best and experienced in the game and learnt nothing. He must have somehow improved and I'd like to see him given a final shot. A bit risky...but meh..
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Why would England play Walcott on the wing as well if he was truely awful? He isnt perfect there but its not his position, he is young and new to the premiership but I wouldnt call him awful. I know you dont think he is an awful player fullstop, just in that position but even so i wouldnt call him awful.
I would still prefer him over Eboue. Eboue does just as many hopeless runs into no where when hes on the ball.
The reason we were talking about Eboue was that the article was on him. No one wants to buy our worse players. That would be crazy if something wanted all the bad players from the team. I am sure Wenger would love you if you could get a buyer for all our bad players lol
At the end of the day Fab will leave next year if we arent successful this season. And that certainly wont have anything to do with whether Eboue is there or not.
I would still prefer him over Eboue. Eboue does just as many hopeless runs into no where when hes on the ball.
The reason we were talking about Eboue was that the article was on him. No one wants to buy our worse players. That would be crazy if something wanted all the bad players from the team. I am sure Wenger would love you if you could get a buyer for all our bad players lol
At the end of the day Fab will leave next year if we arent successful this season. And that certainly wont have anything to do with whether Eboue is there or not.
I wouldn't mind Senderos staying, but I just don't think he'd get any game time at all. Having watched Vermaelen a little, he already looks better than Senderos, so I'd be putting him as 2nd/3rd choice after Gallas. If Arsenal are really struggling for money so much, selling Eboue and Senderos to raise funds for transfers is the first thing the club should be doing (in fact it should have been done weeks ago) as they're surplus to requirement, it makes no sense for them to be at Arsenal from anybodies P.O.V as I'm sure they want first team football too as they're not bad players at all and probably do deserve first team football, just not at Arsenal ..
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Aye indeed, it'd also free up yet more wages for new blood. Another reason why I'm glad we got rid of the other Emmanuel.
I agree with him, Walcott is dog **** as a winger.
He cant even hack it at under 21 level as a winger, he is going to go down as either a result of gross mismanagement by Wenger, or as the biggest waste of talent ever at the club, because I can guarantee you If Wenger saw anything in him whatsoever that said he should play up front, he would do.
No Eboue is much worse than you rate him is the actual truth, he was a pretty decent RB but seeing how we have a much superior Sagna playing there we should sell him whilst some others mugs actually think he's worth something.
Wenger doesn't play Eboue in DM because he knows just like myself that the lad cannot pass nor read a game properly, say what you like about Denilson/Song/Diaby but they're all superior defensive midfielders even if they're not the proper quality we desire there. Eboue has good strength and is fast but that is where it ends for him.
Besides Song showed some promise a couple of months from the end of last season and if Diaby can shake off those niggling injuries and get a run of games and build some more confidence i still believe he can make it....you can't question his technical ability - he is right up there and defensive midfielders aren't born overnight generally.
I've been saying on here for the last couple of years that the club just don't have any funds, despite most ppl believing the usual tripe delivered from the directors about pots of gold waiting for Wenger. It's just not true and that shiny new stadium has come at a cost, so unless they sell it off or find an Abramovich ya'll better get accustomed to it for a little while.
Why blame Wenger for ***** sake? he is only the best thing to happen to the club in the last decade .....yes let's sack our prized asset and bring in Phil Brown. *brilliant*
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Walcott has made zero progress since he arrived at the club, still makes the same stupid schoolboy errors time after time and then bangs in a wonder goal every now and then to fool the majority.
I'm just not a believer in Walcott, never have been.
I don't think he's that great right now but he hasn't even had a full premiership season, why are people writing him off :/ Judge him next summer if he has a full 09/10 .. If people remember, he ended last season well and started this season very well, then got that shoulder injury which obviously messed with his confidence and flow
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Aye, don't forget younger players' form is usually pretty vulnerable to many things. He's been injured for large periods of his stay at Arsenal which is always going to hamper.
Marscay he has made lots of progress since he's come; however as with most of our young players the tutorage recieved is going to suffer, simply because there aren't any proper senior players of the same positions at the club. Arshavin for example is probably too new to be looked at like that.
Marscay he has made lots of progress since he's come; however as with most of our young players the tutorage recieved is going to suffer, simply because there aren't any proper senior players of the same positions at the club. Arshavin for example is probably too new to be looked at like that.
Real Madrid have re-signed Granero, who they let go a few years ago.
He actually took a big pay cut to return:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/2009-07-24-3374707502_x.htm
Nice to hear that there are still players who value playing for boyhood team/trophies over money.
He actually took a big pay cut to return:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/2009-07-24-3374707502_x.htm
Nice to hear that there are still players who value playing for boyhood team/trophies over money.
This is how I feel as well.
Whatever the Directors may or may not be saying, it seems clear that behind closed doors the club knows that its a tough time financially and the belt needs to be tightened.
There will come a time when we will see the benefits but until that time its Arsene's job to keep us going with the resources we have, and he is doing a brilliant job of it.
I'm not expecting anymore signings. When Arsene said that scoring isn't a problem but conceding is I think he has addressed that in his mind with the Vermaelan signing. I'm not sure a DM was even an important part of the plan, whatever the fans think. I think at this point it would be very uncharacteristic of him as he would see it as stunting Song's growth.
Wednesday not signing France
We do need another midfielder, we are desperately short in the middle of the park. We are easily out played in the middle.
I hope Mr Laws can sign someone soon, or at least get someone on loan to help out for the season. I have faith in him, so I'm not overly worried.
It's hard been a club in 25 million pounds of debt, and having zero transfer funds, and the smallest wage budget in the league.
We do need another midfielder, we are desperately short in the middle of the park. We are easily out played in the middle.
I hope Mr Laws can sign someone soon, or at least get someone on loan to help out for the season. I have faith in him, so I'm not overly worried.
It's hard been a club in 25 million pounds of debt, and having zero transfer funds, and the smallest wage budget in the league.
We do need another midfielder, we are desperately short in the middle of the park. We are easily out played in the middle.
I hope Mr Laws can sign someone soon, or at least get someone on loan to help out for the season. I have faith in him, so I'm not overly worried.
It's hard been a club in 25 million pounds of debt, and having zero transfer funds, and the smallest wage budget in the league.
SUFC signed him from under you!
We have also signed Ched Evans.
Quite underwhelmed with Ryan France tbh. When Blackwell said he would be signing a solid midfielder, I was hoping for someone with a bit more... Well, ability :/
I don't think that's good enough though as that one position is stunting the entire team's performance every week, Arsenal's midfield are far too easy to get past, that's why the defence often looks so vulnerable, there isn't enough cover from midfield and right now, Song isn't the answer if Arsenal want to win the league next season. He'll be ready in 2 years, so play him in 2 years.
Arsenal aren't going to win the league, whether they buy a DM or not. And, if the club do not have the money, they can't buy the players.
Still praying that by some huge miracle, Arsenal get Senna though.
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I just want the season to start now so I can start watching some games. We got one defender which is one of the positions we needed. I guess thats better than nothing.