**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**

marscay said:
Which team did you watch last year?

I watched the one who struggled for goals for about 6-8 weeks in that poor stretch and we've just lost one of the best CF's in the world on his day - and we don't have the defensive makeup to eek out too many 1-0 wins.

Sure Adebayor was a sulk for the majority of the season but he was genuine world class when he wanted to be.

Eduardos fitness is still undecided largely, we all know RvP won't play 40 league games in the best of scenarios so at some point are we going to be relying on the likes of Bendtner for goals??? i'd say most likely is the outcome of that question.

I am going to be pretty dissapointed if another good striker isn't brought into the squad but that's not likely to happen. It's hard not to feel like this will be a tough season especially after Nasri/Eduardo news.
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Yeah they struggled for goals for ages, but not after Arshavin was bought, and as far as I'm aware he's still knocking around. Also, Man Utd struggled for goals for large periods of the season and won quite a lot of games 1 - 0, Arsenal scored the same amount of goals as Man Utd and Chelsea last year didn't they? So goal scoring isn't the biggest of Arsenal's issues I'd say, unless Man Utd and Chelsea are also in the same poistion (Man Utd having lost by far their most prolific goal scorer, Arsenal keeping RvP)

Also Adebayor only showed one moment of world class ability last year and that was Villareal away, with that overhead kick, may I ask the question, which version of Adebayor were you watching last season as it was certainly a different one to the rest of us (inc. Wenger who couldn't wait to sell him!)

I don't think we should carry on as you obviously have very different views to me, and you don't really provide fair arguments as you mis-interpret most of my posts entirely!
 
Tom84 said:
It's refreshing to read a post from an Arsenal fan who's opinion is so unbelievably blinkered as jakeke's & DM's

What's up with Eduardo now may I ask? I thought he was all set to start pre season action from what I heard on SSN the other day :confused:
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Blinkered?! What have I said that's unreasonable? I don't think Arsenal are good enough to challenge for anything next season as the squad stands and I've never said that. People seem to mis-interpret what I say hugely. Eduardo is fine, he's playing in the next pre-season game.
 
Tom84 said:
Seriously you're beyond belief with some of the stuff you come out with, so United's good defence is based on Ferdinand, Vidic & Evra only while Arsenal's shackey defence is only that because of lack of protection by the midfield so presumably with you saying that you're saying that our defence is SO good we dont need any cover from the midfield - right ok.....

As for your Barca point it's just as laughable, so in one game, where one team, that once 1-0 up played us of the pitch that proves that we have no midfield even though A- in 50 odd other games that we must have played last season no other team managed to show this and B- Barca also played Chelsea off of the pitch in two games must mean they also have no midfield either

Oh and FYI go back to the two Champions League games between United and Arsenal last season and tell me that our midfield 3 didn't play your midfield 3 off of the park in both games
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Arsenal have a poor defence, where did I say it was good :s. I'm going to give in now.

Also about Man Utd's midfield, it was pretty good last year but nothing on the 07/08 midfield, and with the loss of your best midfielder by far it's going to get no better.
 
jakeke said:
Also Adebayor only showed one moment of world class ability last year and that was Villareal away, with that overhead kick, may I ask the question, which version of Adebayor were you watching last season as it was certainly a different one to the rest of us (inc. Wenger who couldn't wait to sell him!)
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As i said he was a sulk, but if you had him in the right mindset he was awesome.

Unfortunately he decided at the start of the season not to give a damn once he got his new contract but he still put in some decent performances .....i'd still rather Edebayor on the field than Bendtner.

jakeke said:
People seem to mis-interpret what I say hugely.
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Yeh it's not you it is us, you're so very correct. :)
 
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marscay said:
As i said he was a sulk, but if you had him in the right mindset he was awesome.

Unfortunately he decided at the start of the season not to give a damn once he got his new contract but he still put in some decent performances .....i'd still rather Edebayor on the field than Bendtner.
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Agreed, I've been re-watching loads of 06-07 and 07-08 games recently and Adebayor was actually really good, he ran so much and created lots through sheer hard work, when he lost that hard work he didn't have enough ability to make up for it, also agreed I'd prefer a hard working Adebayor over Bendtner any day, but that Ade looked like it'd gone forever
 
jakeke said:
Blinkered?! What have I said that's unreasonable?
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Erm suggesting Arsenal's midfield is better than Man Utd's for one despite us out playing you in two games, winning two more trophies than you, making it to a Champions League final completely out playing teams like Inter and the San Siro in the process need I go on?

jakeke said:
Arsenal have a poor defence, where did I say it was good :s. I'm going to give in now.
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Erm here

jakeke said:
I don't think that's good enough though as that one position is stunting the entire team's performance every week, Arsenal's midfield are far too easy to get past, that's why the defence often looks so vulnerable, there isn't enough cover from midfield
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Right there you're suggesting that if it wasn't for a lack of cover in midfield your defence wouldn't be vulnerable
 
Yeah was defo time to cash in, think the "interest" from Milan etc went to his head. I think we'll be ok with RvP, Eduardo, Vela and Bentdner though. They all offer something a little different. We really need to spend some money on a DM, if not lots on a first choice at least a backup for Song (i thought he did really well towards the end of the season).
 
Tom84 said:
Erm suggesting Arsenal's midfield is better than Man Utd's for one despite us out playing you in two games, winning two more trophies than you, making it to a Champions League final completely out playing teams like Inter and the San Siro in the process need I go on?



Erm here



Right there you're suggesting that if it wasn't for a lack of cover in midfield your defence wouldn't be vulnerable
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Last season Man Utd's midfield were way better than Arsenal's, just not sure they will be next season as I think the return of Rosicky will do wonders for Arsenal's midfield and hopefully Arsene will buy a good CM. Never claimed that LAST season Arsenal were better, never would, since Man Utd were lots better.

About the defence, maybe I worded that wrong a little, but I do think that Arsenal's lack of midfield cover puts the defence in a worse light than it should, that said, despite having good induvidual defenders, as a collective unit Arsenal's defence are definitely not as good as they should/could be.

Don't assume that I'm saying Arsenal are great in any of my posts, they're a long way from that.
 
jakeke said:
Last season Man Utd's midfield were way better than Arsenal's, just not sure they will be next season as I think the return of Rosicky will do wonders for Arsenal's midfield and hopefully Arsene will buy a good CM. Never claimed that LAST season Arsenal were better, never would, since Man Utd were lots better.

About the defence, maybe I worded that wrong a little, but I do think that Arsenal's lack of midfield cover puts the defence in a worse light than it should, that said, despite having good induvidual defenders, as a collective unit Arsenal's defence are definitely not as good as they should/could be.

Don't assume that I'm saying Arsenal are great in any of my posts, they're a long way from that.
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Ok fair enough most of that was fair, although you're placing a lot of hope on a player who's been injured for a very long time and unless you're a wide player like Ronaldo who obviously effects a large amount of games with goals then I struggle to see how a wide player is going to effect a team to the extent that you're hoping Rosicky will.

Time will tell I guess but when he was fit I thought Rosicky was a bit of a flop for Arsenal and with everyone fit unless you play him in the centre of midfield then I would have Nasri in ahead of him wide on the right.
 
Tom84 said:
Ok fair enough most of that was fair, although you're placing a lot of hope on a player who's been injured for a very long time and unless you're a wide player like Ronaldo who obviously effects a large amount of games with goals then I struggle to see how a wide player is going to effect a team to the extent that you're hoping Rosicky will.

Time will tell I guess but when he was fit I thought Rosicky was a bit of a flop for Arsenal and with everyone fit unless you play him in the centre of midfield then I would have Nasri in ahead of him wide on the right.
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Yeah, I really rate Rosicky though and I don't think he's widely considered a flop, quite the opposite amongst Arsenal fans, but his fitness is a worry, yes. My main hope is that new midfielders are bought and I think that's the only chance Arsenal will have for silverware.

About the formation, I'd like a 4-3-3 with a solid DM behind Fab and Rosicky/Nasri with Arshavin pushed into the upfront 3 with RvP/Eduardo/Walcott/Bender, that formation holds a lot of promise for me!
 
[Cas];14544194 said:
I'd take Naughton over Hutton though, probably Walker aswell.
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Hutton is quality, he's just been unlucky with injuries; I definitely don't see how you'd prefer an untested 19 year old (talking Walker here).

Spurs certainly have a lot of RB's! Order of my ratedness:

Corluka, Hutton, Naughton, Chimbonda and Walker (back on loan to SU).
 
skippi90 said:
Latest is that Vieira is all but tied up.
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Surely that's a move that cant happen?

Sky Sports are saying that talks have stalled, apparently you also tried a cheeky bid for Diarra (the Chelsea/Arsenal/Portsmouth one), cant see Real selling him, he's the only one in their midfield that actually tackles
 
Tom84 said:
Right there you're suggesting that if it wasn't for a lack of cover in midfield your defence wouldn't be vulnerable
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Holy ****, breaking news: A lack of a decent DM will expose your defence more.

More after lunch!

skippi90 said:
They also said that Huntelaar to Stuttgart was done. During transfer season, it's hard to know who to trust.
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The ITKs will show us the light. :cool:
 
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