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It's basically in a massive white box compared to the SSDs size. Then the SSD is in some anti static plastic bag with a bitter of paper ontop to fill the huge waste of boxing :)
 
Stryda09 said:
It's basically in a massive white box compared to the SSDs size. Then the SSD is in some anti static plastic bag with a bitter of paper ontop to fill the huge waste of boxing :)
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Name of the game, always the same impressions it's why they do it >

In store:

'Holy cow! That's a big box! I'm really getting my money's worth!'

Once purchased:

'Holy cow! That's a small product! I've just be ripped off! ... AGAIN'

:p
 
LOL I meant a video showing off the speeds of it in Windows, record some applications and games loading as if we have just installed it ourselves and watching.
 
I can't justify spend that much on a 64g at the moment. Just for a little faster speed increase! I will wait until they come down to a more reasonable price. Around £50. I am thinking this won't be that far off!!
 
the price is very good .. wish it was more space but it will be nice and quite.
I use this pc for media pc its quite now but the SSD will just make it so much better ..

Rich
 
hey guys can you check this benckmark plz and tell me if it looks ok for a 64gb version, im a little worried because i didnt actually instal win 7 i installed an image of win 7 using acronis, so i dont know if the OS is maximised for SSD




what you think ?
 
CSA said:
hey guys can you check this benckmark plz and tell me if it looks ok for a 64gb version, im a little worried because i didnt actually instal win 7 i installed an image of win 7 using acronis, so i dont know if the OS is maximised for SSD




what you think ?
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I did a clean install of windows 7 rtm on my 64gb drive and I also have wierd results although still much better than yours.

I didn't have much time last night but it appears that windows 7 has set some really massively high cluster size when formatting the disk. I'm going to have to do more research.

HDTune shows my performane to be a zigzag up and down between 220mb and 50mb throughout the whole drive so there is something not right.
 
CSA said:
hey guys can you check this benckmark plz and tell me if it looks ok for a 64gb version, im a little worried because i didnt actually instal win 7 i installed an image of win 7 using acronis, so i dont know if the OS is maximised for SSD
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if alignment issues matter to you and you intend to use acronis true image - dont. At the moment if you do it will not give you the right offset for proper alignment but the same offset that you would get creating the partition in XP, regardless of the offset on the source partition. Just a note of caution.
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*pinched from Erolz comments in the Intel benchmarking thread
 
CSA said:
im abit baffled by all that
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Imagine it a bit like this, the services is a bouncer at the door of a party. You've told the bouncer to not let any guys (HDD) in and only let girls (SSD) in. The bouncer (services) always has to be there to ensure that only girls get through and not guys. You can get rid of the bouncer (disable the services) if you know for sure that no guys are going to try and turn up. (probably not the best analogy but it's all I can think of right now)

CSA said:
but i need to ask

ive just transfered an win 7 image that was created on normal HDD using acronis and installed it onto my SSD , will all those win 7 functions still be turned off automatically ? or will i have to do it manually ?
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I've not personally done this myself, nor have I read of anyone else trying something similar. However, it's reasonable to expect that MS have made it so that W7 should now detect your SSD and as such adjust settings accordingly. Why? MS have to expect *at least* the following combinations of hardware during install and/or use of Win7

a) Install to an SSD only system
b) Install to an HDD only system
c) Install to an SSD only system that later on has an HDD added
d) Install to an HDD only system that later on has an SSD added
e) Install to an SSD and HDD system

For c) MS would have W7 detect that an HDD is added an as such schedule auto defrag etc for that HDD. For d) it would detect the SSD and make sure that defrag etc does NOT get scheduled for that SSD.
 
Just to add my understanding is that misalignment will affect iops performance mostly. In real world usage, depending on your usage it may or may not make a difference to you if your drive is misaligned.

In any case any SSD imaged with acronis will be misaligned. It does not matter what the alignment of the orginal source partition is.

If you have taken the OS from an image of another drive it will have OS setting that were on the old setup (re things like prefetch and superfetch). I have no idea if win 7 will automaticaly change these settings post instal if it detects it is now running on a different drive to the one it was originaly installed on and imaged from or not - srry. My guess would be not but its only a guess.
 
thanks for the info guys , i think i'll make a fresh image of this set up using acronis , save that then install win 7 from scratch , this will format the SSD but i have that back up just incase , i'll then run that crystal mark benchmark again and see if theres any difference

or are they any better benchmark programmes i can use for before and after benches ?
 
I suspect, then, that making an actual clone of the drive with Acronis (which involves backing up free space as well) would not have alignment issues, as long as the parent drive was aligned correctly.
 
Just out of curiosity, has anyone on this thread tried using the built-in "restore image" that comes with Windows 7. That is, has anyone moved Win7 from their HD to and SSD using this approach. I'm just curious as to how it leaves the SSD partitions set up, and whether you can do the set-up first and force Win7 to dump the restore in a pre-configured partition. I've looked on the Win7 site and it's not particularly clear.

Still, it *might* overcome some of the problems people are having with Acronis? Also, if you created the image to a USB stick you could essentially do a complete windows restoration in probably well under 10 mins, and no need to spend days re-installing your apps. and doing your tweaks.

Nomadd
 
fornowagain said:
1. Open a cmd box, type Diskpart

2. List disk

3. select disk ? (where ? is your SSD, usually 0 for the main drive, if you're not sure check in disk management, that's right click the 'computer' icon)

4. list partition (will display a list of partitions and their alignment offset)

5. What does it say for offset? (Default on mine is 1024 ~ 1048576 bytes)

6. exit

7. fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo ?: (type this in with the correct drive letter)

8. What does it say under 'bytes per cluster'? (normally 4096)

9. exit

The 'Partition Offset / File Allocation Unit Size' should be an Integer (whole number)

Default is 1048576/4096 = 256 so all is well.
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Greebo said:
I did a clean install of windows 7 rtm on my 64gb drive and I also have wierd results although still much better than yours.

I didn't have much time last night but it appears that windows 7 has set some really massively high cluster size when formatting the disk. I'm going to have to do more research.

HDTune shows my performane to be a zigzag up and down between 220mb and 50mb throughout the whole drive so there is something not right.
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Its bad form to quote oneself, but from earlier in the thread. What do yo see if you check the details above?
miniyazz said:
I suspect, then, that making an actual clone of the drive with Acronis (which involves backing up free space as well) would not have alignment issues, as long as the parent drive was aligned correctly.
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Wanna bet, see if this helps.

 
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Fresh install on W7!

Does this look about right?


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