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I have just realised I have made a very big n00b error. While I am thinking about how to get the most out of this SSD, I forgot I do not have any spare SATA data cables in this house to plug it in. :o

The nearest cable shop I would have to drive to. The problem there is I have no car. I could always go back to my parents house to get one. The problem there is it is too far and I cannot be bothered for the sake of a cable.

Poo.
 
Mailman86 said:
I have just realised I have made a very big n00b error. While I am thinking about how to get the most out of this SSD, I forgot I do not have any spare SATA data cables in this house to plug it in. :o

The nearest cable shop I would have to drive to. The problem there is I have no car. I could always go back to my parents house to get one. The problem there is it is too far and I cannot be bothered for the sake of a cable.

Poo.
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Use the cable from your F1 on your SSD.
Install W7
When get new cable install HDD
Simples

btw I have the same as you, M225 and F1, both on AHCI.
 
Well I have got an external HDD which should arrive any day now so I may as well wait until I get that and do a proper backup first before I touch anything. Plus I have bagged a lift down to an electronics shop tomorrow so I will get one then.

Maybe I should do a dry run first before I actually install it in case I have overlooked something else. :p
 
get windows 7 installed on your SSD and get it all set-up, then tomorrow you can move over your files / backup.

I still have my vista disk as it was but not connected so i can go back if needed. Once I am happy I will backup the files i need a format and then use it to keep a backup.

Rich
 
Well call me overcautious then, but I would rather have a backup of the HDD before I even touch anything. It is all too easy press the wrong button and delete something you want to keep. And who knows, although unlikely, I may get some strange error, crash etc that might lose my data. Besides this external HDD should be here either tomorrow or Saturday anyway and I can wait until then!
 
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Well call me overcautious then
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Its not overcautious if you don't have any backup of any important data. It's a bit over the top otherwise, just pulling the plug will protect the data. Probably a good idea to disconnect it if its another OS boot drive anyway, times I've seen a new install overwrite the boot manager.
 
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http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61328

update on the next firmware

2 weeks at the earliest or 1 week according to which rep you ask , total rewrite under way... fault was not with TRIM.
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FW 1.30 is very stable and will not corrupt data, the beta test of 1.40 and higher did have some issues, thoses issues are known to us and the beta was withdrawn. users on 1.4x FW may see some corruption and we have advised how to safeguard against this. I am hoping to see an updater next week to at least get people on 1.4x who have issues back on a 1.30 based FW.
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Just so you guy are aware, you will need to come off 1.4X beta's when I get the downgrader...even if you have no issues now.

Also there will be no further public beta tests, closed beta tests only as we had people flashing without thinking the files could have issues. Beta means beta...for some though beta means final...
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I have installed a few apps but not changed any drivers / setting from the windows 7 install


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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read : 225.762 MB/s
Sequential Write : 138.884 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 164.381 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 124.042 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 28.138 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 16.876 MB/s
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ok so no drivers install just windows update and more apps and did another test and it got better

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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read : 244.913 MB/s
Sequential Write : 146.928 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 162.070 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 170.095 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 28.039 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 17.149 MB/s
 
Yay I win!

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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read : 2542.636 MB/s
Sequential Write : 1510.739 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 6542.681 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 2677.282 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 880.360 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 1007.305 MB/s

Test Size : 100 MB
Date : 2009/08/28 7:41:07
 
Tempted to completely wipe my SSD (HDDClean) to try and fix this CrystalDiskMark strangeness... no one seems to have any clue what would cause it or how to fix it.
 
Durzel said:
Tempted to completely wipe my SSD (HDDClean) to try and fix this CrystalDiskMark strangeness... no one seems to have any clue what would cause it or how to fix it.
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Try changing the IDE/ahci/raid drivers first. Plus I think hddclean is only for intel drives. Try sanitaryerase iirc for barefoot based drives.
 
HEADRAT said:
So I'm guessing it feels pretty snappy right ;)

HEADRAT
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You could say that :D

To be honest the improvement over a single ssd isn't the same sort of jump you would see with a mechanical HD raid setup. It's probably not worth the extra cash unless u need the storage space. For me I'm maybe going to go back to single drive and use the second one in another of my quads.
 
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You could say that :D

To be honest the improvement over a single ssd isn't the same sort of jump you would see with a mechanical HD raid setup. It's probably not worth the extra cash unless u need the storage space. For me I'm maybe going to go back to single drive and use the second one in another of my quads.
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I would say yes, theres a definate boost in benchmarking performance and the drives scale pretty damn well and things are certainly quick, but a single drive feels just as quick compared to a top mechanical drive, or 2 top mech drives in raid 0. The snappyness hasn't changed and my load times don't feel impressively faster, shutdown and load are very very fast, but again nothing one drive wouldn't be much slower at really at all.

What I'm getting at is, theres basically only so much performance you need, and going from 16mb to 30mb/s 4kb random read performance and the increased iops frankly, hasn't yielded much in the terms of real world performance. I'm keeping it because its only 2x64's, its faster than a single 128gb and I need more than 64gb for my main speed drive.

What I was saying before I bought these was, the Intel might be faster but in real world benchmarks, load time testing, game testing, windows load testing, anything non synthetic there wasn't an iota of difference between the Intel and a Vertex/Crucial or even a Samsung controller corsair.

My advice is, the Intel is fast, but that speed doesn't really help you at all. Its like having 12gb mem but only ever filling 4gb, the speed is there, you just really won't be using it.


Its still nice performance is moving up and giving us headroom, because when theirs headroom, thats when programmers can adjust to use it in the future, but right now I couldn't recommend needing a Vertex/Crucial in raid or a Intel at all, its overly expensive for speed you won't use.
 
Drunkenmaster, excellent post.

Only thing I wanted to clarify, for me the move from mechanical HD in RAID0 to a single SSD was a noticeable and a fairly significant improvement. It's a much smaller jump from single SSD to RAID0 SSD. Also, for the same reasons in your post, the jump to SSD RAID0 does not feel as significant as it did when I moved from single HD to RAID0 HD.

e.g. on my subjective scale of 1-5 for noticeable improvement;

Single HD -> RAID0 HD = 3
RAID0 HD -> Single SSD = 4
Single SSD -> RAID0 SSD = 2

Hope that makes sense :D
 
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