Chelsea banned from signing players for 2 transfer windows
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Nobody can say how big an impact this will have on Chelsea because nobody knows what's going to happen over the next 18months or so. However at the very best it's going to be incredibly difficult for them to even stand still.
If the ban holds up then they will be in a delicate situation. Yes they've got a very strong squad now but a serious injury to Lampard, Anelka or Drogba would leave them looking short of goals and then as you say injuries around the ACON could also leave their squad looking considerably weaker.
You've then got the age of some of their key players; although it's unlikely that Lampard and Drogba are suddenly going to completely fall away, will Chelsea be able to rely on those 2 to be their main attacking threat for the next 2 seasons?
And finally, although it's only a ban for 2 transfer windows, how much buisness will Chelsea be able to do in January '11? January transfer windows are traditionally difficult for the bigger clubs to do business because of the CL and for every club it's expensive because of the difficulty in selling clubs getting replacements in.
one window would be pointless though - Chelsea arent likely to be interested in Jan anyway (with cuptied players etc etc)
By all means reduce it to two windows instead of four (it was originally two years wasnt it and applied after this window shut so originally for two summers) - but to just ban for Jan would be a monumental waste of time and also looking forward would be no real hindrance to Chelsea (or anyone else this applies to going forward)
edit - appologies it was always "registration periods" rather than seasons. but I still think its pointless banning any big club from a transfer in Jan, it wouldnt make a jot of difference.
(and yes I am nervous about this Le Havre appeal against Utd, but I would still state the same thing if this came to light first - even though the Spanish /Italians have been doing similar for years)
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I'm probably being dense but does this also mean anything for new players that Chelsea are attempting to bring on as juniors? The wording seems to be that they will be banned from making any new registrations so will the junior players be registered? I know it is unlikely that anyone good enough and old enough to make it to the team(s) won't already be registered with a club but purely as a point of curiousity I'd like to know.
Apart from that I can't see this doing much to stop tapping up - some clubs might become more circumspect about it but that's probably all.
Apart from that I can't see this doing much to stop tapping up - some clubs might become more circumspect about it but that's probably all.
Someone explain to me how this is any different from say Manu going public to nick Saha from Fulham or City to get Lescott.
Its happened for years. Tapping up is hardly isolated to the top 4 either or even this country so why now all of a sudden do they hammer chelsea and probably Manu too.
Will they do anything about Real Madrid?
Yeah right.
Its happened for years. Tapping up is hardly isolated to the top 4 either or even this country so why now all of a sudden do they hammer chelsea and probably Manu too.
Will they do anything about Real Madrid?
Yeah right.
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I don't understand something. Are Chelsea banned from the transfer market in that they can't sign players? Can they loan players in?
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They are banned from registering new players. So no signings, no loans. they can recall people from loan however.
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Yeah the January transfer window has always been a bit of a joke. They should just do away with transfer windows completely. Make things a bit more exciting and competitive. I reckon a lot more deals would be done under the radar of the media too. On the flipside, imagine the rumours sections of the media would make up.
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In theory their younger players (Mancienne, Di Santo, Sinclair, Sturridge, Turnbull etc etc) will have gained experience and be better placed to act as backup players for the stars.
True, but by the same logic surely they aren't missing out on much in January 2010 then? I can see Chelsea doing business in January 2011, they did it last year afterall, spending £27m in January.
Heck, everyone is jizzing all over Chelsea this season and tipping them for the title. Yet how much business did they do in the last two windows? Erm, Zhirkov and a few kids, that's about it. They've done all their spending over the last 5 years, they don't really need to do much these days
As somebody pointed out the other day (may have even been you), only a handful of players in any of the top 4 sides have come from within the club. So as promising as those players are, it will be difficult for those to really add anything to Chelseas current squard.
Also, equally the extra years experience those have gained is likely to be cancelled out by the extra years 'experience' that Drogba and Lampard have gained
True, but by the same logic surely they aren't missing out on much in January 2010 then? I can see Chelsea doing business in January 2011, they did it last year afterall, spending £27m in January.
Heck, everyone is jizzing all over Chelsea this season and tipping them for the title. Yet how much business did they do in the last two windows? Erm, Zhirkov and a few kids, that's about it. They've done all their spending over the last 5 years, they don't really need to do much these days
Providing everything is going well then they're not going to miss out much this January. Typically the January transfer window is not used for planned purchases and certainly not majory changes, more for tweaking squads and covering injuries. I agree that if the ban holds up that they'll do some business in January '11 but it won't be easy. The type of player Chelsea are after will be playing for top sides and how often do top sides sell important players in January?
Regarding Chelsea being tipped for the title this year while not making many signings; that's more to do with Liverpool and Utd being perceived as being weaker this season than last. Chelsea haven't lost any key players and have added a couple of handy players.
That's a completely different issue though, I was saying that top sides don't have many non-bought players in the first team. Most of the young names I mentioned in relation to Chelsea were bought in. They might add something if they get the chance, normally elite clubs don't take the risk because they just buy fresh players in. They shouldn't need to add anything to the squad anyway unless Chelsea suffer badly from injuries, suspensions and international duty.
So are you seriously telling me that you think Drogba and Lampard's place in the team was under threat for 2010? Drogba was given a new deal only this summer, and Lampard a 5 year contract only last summer.Also, equally the extra years experience those have gained is likely to be cancelled out by the extra years 'experience' that Drogba and Lampard have gained
IMO the reason is irrelevant; either they have a good enough squad to be viewed as title winners, or they don't. Liverpool and MU aren't going to get any handicap points for being 'perceivably weaker'
Regardless of whether they were brought in or not, how likely is it that any of those players will have a longterm future in Chelsea first team? How many of Chelsea first team weren't high profile experienced players when they were signed? You can't put that entirely down to top clubs not being willing to take a risk on youngsters, 99% of youngsters (even ones brought in from all around the world) turn out not to be good enough.
Not at all, just like I don't think you were saying that those youngsters were suddenly going to break into Chelsea's starting 11 either. As I said in my earlier post, Lampard and Drogba aren't going to suddenly fall away but there is a very real possibility that they won't be playing at the same level this time next year so for Chelsea to be any better off without buying in then those players have got some way to go.
IMO the reason is irrelevant; either they have a good enough squad to be viewed as title winners, or they don't. Liverpool and MU aren't going to get any handicap points for being 'perceivably weaker'
I didn't say otherwise. This summer has been extremely unusual in that none of the top sides have (on paper at least) significantly improved. Will Chelsea still have the strongest squad in the league next season if Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal go out on a spending spree?
As I first said, you can't say how big an impact this will have on Chelsea because we don't know what's going to happen. If they don't suffer any serious injury problems, their senior players keep performing and there rivals don't significantly improve then the ban won't have much of an impact. If Essien and Anelka pick up major injuries, Drogba and Lampard start tailing off and Utd go out and spend £80m on Messi then it may well impact them.