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Guest2 said:
Is SSD (this crucial one) faster than the new velociraptor 150gb/300gb drives? Ive been searching the net yesterday and found mixed reviews. Some people saying the SSD and some people saying the Veloci
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Definitely perceptibly faster than my old RAID 0 Raptor setup on exactly the same motherboard, etc.
 
drunkenmaster said:
People need to work out that "most" of the performance drop is completely and utterly undetectable by anything but benchmarks, even there, with the "massive" drop in performance, which is actually not particularly huge, it will still wipe the floor with any mechanical HDD. The performance drop maybe be say, instead of being 100 times faster at the 4kb random writes, it might be 75 times faster.

Frankly most people do what they can to minimise usage of their ssd's anyway, OS, most frequently used apps and games, I put games I'm just having a quick blast through, like COD 4 which I'm playing again, on a normal HDD(its not realistically slower in things like games). I have Lotro on the SSD as I play it frequently with lots of slower loads going on all the time.

THe fact is there probably isn't that many situations where wiper will ever take a drive from sluggish to uber fast. If you're constantly reinstalling things on your ssd, or constantly downloading and unraring things to the drive then maybe your unrar'ing will take a little longer than it should. But heres the thing, realistically you don't want to be doing your downloading to your SSD in the first place.

After your OS is on and your main games installed, there shouldn't be a whole lot of writing going on and the writing that happens, will usually be small and not performance important files, like internet cache as you surf. Read's and loading will be the majority of the workload once you've got your system up and running, with which wiper won't change speeds much at all.

I've noticed no performance drop AT ALL with my Crucials since I got them, its still incredibly responsive, still install the odd thing and have no issues then either. Game loading is as fast as it was ages ago, TRIM, is almost completely unimportant for most people.

Yes a nice background garbage collection "might" help, but more for piece of mind than actual tangible benefits.
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Durzel said:
You've actually taken steps to optimise your setup though and you're probably not a typical user as far as computer hardware goes. I haven't bothered disabling anything manually with mine, I just let Windows 7 do whatever it needed to do. In that regard I'd class myself as a "typical SSD user".

Whilst it's fair to say anyone buying an SSD probably has an idea that they're "a bit different" I doubt they'd all know the benefits or downsides of disabling (or not) indexing, system restore, etc. Most I imagine would just plug it in and expect everything to work ok.

Also saying "frankly most people do what they can to minimise usage of their SSD's anyway" is a bit presumptuous isn't it? How do you know this is the case? I bought a 256GB SSD specifically so I could speed up as much stuff as possible, and on certain operating systems (OSX specifically) it's not always easy to specify which drive(s) it decides to store things on.
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I pretty much agree with the sentiments here.

The drives have a 5 year warranty, more than enough. Just use the drives, if you have Windows 7 don't bother with any tweaks - you're not going to see any major differences.

Indexing, well it's mainly reads anyway so it's hardly wearing your drive out, but it's pretty redundant as the drive is so fast. Similarly for pagefiles, hibernation files and system restore - if you want the feature just run it.

Likewise, if I want to I'll download to the SSDs - I'll do whatever suits my workflow. I could be proven wrong and wear the drive out, but with a 5 year warranty and a backup I'm just going to use this drive as a fast HD and not worry about the consequences.

IMO, the only justifiable reason to find ways not to use these things is if you want to save a bit of space for that next big game, or the latest app - because the cost is so high, it limits your ability to put everything on them.

So what if TRIM doesn't work, or the drive degrades over time - I bet you won't notice it - and it will still wipe the floor with a conventional HD.

Hopefully that doesn't come across as a rant or a criticism (particularly of the two posts I quoted), but I'm seeing far too many people worrying (IMO unnecessarily) about the life span of these disks - how many threads are posted in here a week about failed HDs - so disk failures are a fact of life anyway.

If you can afford/justify the cost of one, buy one - and enjoy it, for what it is - a very fast HD!
 
drunkenmaster said:
People need to work out that "most" of the performance drop is completely and utterly undetectable by anything but benchmarks, even there, with the "massive" drop in performance, which is actually not particularly huge, it will still wipe the floor with any mechanical HDD. The performance drop maybe be say, instead of being 100 times faster at the 4kb random writes, it might be 75 times faster.

Frankly most people do what they can to minimise usage of their ssd's anyway, OS, most frequently used apps and games, I put games I'm just having a quick blast through, like COD 4 which I'm playing again, on a normal HDD(its not realistically slower in things like games). I have Lotro on the SSD as I play it frequently with lots of slower loads going on all the time.

THe fact is there probably isn't that many situations where wiper will ever take a drive from sluggish to uber fast. If you're constantly reinstalling things on your ssd, or constantly downloading and unraring things to the drive then maybe your unrar'ing will take a little longer than it should. But heres the thing, realistically you don't want to be doing your downloading to your SSD in the first place.

After your OS is on and your main games installed, there shouldn't be a whole lot of writing going on and the writing that happens, will usually be small and not performance important files, like internet cache as you surf. Read's and loading will be the majority of the workload once you've got your system up and running, with which wiper won't change speeds much at all.

I've noticed no performance drop AT ALL with my Crucials since I got them, its still incredibly responsive, still install the odd thing and have no issues then either. Game loading is as fast as it was ages ago, TRIM, is almost completely unimportant for most people.

Yes a nice background garbage collection "might" help, but more for piece of mind than actual tangible benefits.
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Durzel said:
You've actually taken steps to optimise your setup though and you're probably not a typical user as far as computer hardware goes. I haven't bothered disabling anything manually with mine, I just let Windows 7 do whatever it needed to do. In that regard I'd class myself as a "typical SSD user".

Whilst it's fair to say anyone buying an SSD probably has an idea that they're "a bit different" I doubt they'd all know the benefits or downsides of disabling (or not) indexing, system restore, etc. Most I imagine would just plug it in and expect everything to work ok.

Also saying "frankly most people do what they can to minimise usage of their SSD's anyway" is a bit presumptuous isn't it? How do you know this is the case? I bought a 256GB SSD specifically so I could speed up as much stuff as possible, and on certain operating systems (OSX specifically) it's not always easy to specify which drive(s) it decides to store things on.
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ChileanLlama said:
I pretty much agree with the sentiments here.

The drives have a 5 year warranty, more than enough. Just use the drives, if you have Windows 7 don't bother with any tweaks - you're not going to see any major differences.

Indexing, well it's mainly reads anyway so it's hardly wearing your drive out, but it's pretty redundant as the drive is so fast. Similarly for pagefiles, hibernation files and system restore - if you want the feature just run it.

Likewise, if I want to I'll download to the SSDs - I'll do whatever suits my workflow. I could be proven wrong and wear the drive out, but with a 5 year warranty and a backup I'm just going to use this drive as a fast HD and not worry about the consequences.

IMO, the only justifiable reason to find ways not to use these things is if you want to save a bit of space for that next big game, or the latest app - because the cost is so high, it limits your ability to put everything on them.

So what if TRIM doesn't work, or the drive degrades over time - I bet you won't notice it - and it will still wipe the floor with a conventional HD.

Hopefully that doesn't come across as a rant or a criticism (particularly of the two posts I quoted), but I'm seeing far too many people worrying (IMO unnecessarily) about the life span of these disks - how many threads are posted in here a week about failed HDs - so disk failures are a fact of life anyway.

If you can afford/justify the cost of one, buy one - and enjoy it, for what it is - a very fast HD!
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Good posts there guys. As these drives are so new to the "mainstream", there seems to be a dearth of good info, or in some cases, down right misinformation.

So I don't suppose one of you would like to expand on these posts, giving references to where you got your info from, and add it to the SSD sticky thread? I think it would be a really valuable addition to a much needed resource.
 
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Me too as my 53GB is the newer firmware and that is in a laptop. I could'nt be bothered waiting for the new fix fw so I used the 128GB with 1571 I had(plz dont be a destructive update)
 
J273 said:
Do you think we'll likely be seeing this update this week ?...or even today?

Really want to get it installed with win7 now as my current vista installs playing up.
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I have a 64 GB on order since monday, money charged immediately but no order shipped yet. I wonder if it is a week or a month until new stock...
 
Hi,

I am pondering over ordering one but as there is no ETA date I don't want to order it and then be waiting weeks/months before receiving it.

I might submit a webnote to check if they know when they will be getting them! :)

If anyone knows when they are due please let us know!
 
Are there any known issues running an M225 on an nVidia 650i motherboard, the Asus P5N-E SLI?

How about the Intel P35 chipset?
 
Not the news we've been waiting for but an update still:

Our lab is continuing to run the firmware update through our validation and testing process, and we are seeing positive results so far. Once we have validated the firmware update we will post it to our support site. We will also post here that it is available.

Katana, Crucial Moderator, US
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I'm not so well informed of the FW update that is ongoing - however, could it be the case that there will be no new stock because they want to ship all new drives with this new update? ETA in Sweden has today been further pushed forward 2 weeks until middle of October (infect from Intel G2...)
 
snowstorm said:
I'm not so well informed of the FW update that is ongoing - however, could it be the case that there will be no new stock because they want to ship all new drives with this new update? ETA in Sweden has today been further pushed forward 2 weeks until middle of October (infect from Intel G2...)
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No. The new firmware has nothing to do with it. For all we know it might take weeks for it to be released (hope not).
 
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