More end of the year Chav beatings!
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Now the chav wants to sue. He says the newspaper has humiliated him.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...eing-floored-by-ex-soldier-threatens-Sun.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...eing-floored-by-ex-soldier-threatens-Sun.html
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Love the way he crawls away not knowing if his nose is on the outside or inside his face. Shouldnt of acted so big if he could only take the one punch 
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This is good obviously, it happened a while back and I might have the answer.
In the more recent article of the yob saying he's going to sue him it says "He has now moved away from the estate" the chap not the yob. So its possible he didnt want to inform the papers untill he was well out of the way for fear of the repercussions (i.e. yob throwing a brick through his window, etc etc) now he's moved away he's told the paper as a little f u to the guy.
In the more recent article of the yob saying he's going to sue him it says "He has now moved away from the estate" the chap not the yob. So its possible he didnt want to inform the papers untill he was well out of the way for fear of the repercussions (i.e. yob throwing a brick through his window, etc etc) now he's moved away he's told the paper as a little f u to the guy.
Most of the people condoning the use of violence in self defence, probally live in posh areas where they dont see this crap happening, wait till it happens to you one day - you might have to defend yourself.
If someone tried to hurt my family, I would have no worrys about serving life in Prison for it if it was a life threatening situation. Family is everything but then again what purpose would it serve?
I think the guy did the best thing, defended his property & the wussy ran off showed his true colors.
Crap thing is that piece of scum is still breathing, will probally do it to someone who cannot defend them self - SCUM!!!
FULLY AGREE!!!!
If someone tried to hurt my family, I would have no worrys about serving life in Prison for it if it was a life threatening situation. Family is everything but then again what purpose would it serve?
I think the guy did the best thing, defended his property & the wussy ran off showed his true colors.
Crap thing is that piece of scum is still breathing, will probally do it to someone who cannot defend them self - SCUM!!!
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lol fully agree with Hequn, i appreciate that the police want to not get people hurt etc and calm every1 down...but when they ahve a knife or just their fists and they wanna piece of this then your not gonna say "ok take my daughter just dont hurt me".
people should take tazer RIFLES
people should take tazer RIFLES
Because you'll then use your mystic powers, to defend them from the revenge attack, from prison?
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Then what happens to your family for the rest of your life?
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i didn't watch it right to the end, so didn't see that bit, literally just watch him beat the smeg out of them...
if that's the case, maybe all those punches he was throwing didn't make good contact? it certainly looked as if he pummeled them at first glance, but they get their arms in the way a lot so most likely didn't take too many hits to the face.
hopefully he returns with a bat with a nail through it to finish 'em off
The Chav kicked the guys door in, didn't he? The karate guy's wife and baby daughter was home, I think he was right in wanting to go out and kick the **** out of charlie big potato's.
His restraint due to camera's was bloody good imo, most in such a dangerous situation would have just seen red and kicked the little gob***** into the middle of next week.
Karate guy is no thug, he's a man protecting his family. Fortunately for him, he's had training, not all victims of these chavvy swine have that fortune and it ends up being them on the floor surrounded by a pack of hyenas.
Good on him, I say.
His restraint due to camera's was bloody good imo, most in such a dangerous situation would have just seen red and kicked the little gob***** into the middle of next week.
Karate guy is no thug, he's a man protecting his family. Fortunately for him, he's had training, not all victims of these chavvy swine have that fortune and it ends up being them on the floor surrounded by a pack of hyenas.
Good on him, I say.
Yes, but why did it happen? What's the reason behind it?
It's bloody good that he restrained himself only because he was being filmed?
Karate guy may or may not be a thug - we don't know enough about it.
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I've watched the HQ version many times before. You can't see the punch because it's obscured by the scal's head. You can't possibly tell how far away his fist was before he decided to strike, nor can you say he could have only hit him in the neck. I've just watched it again - it just looks as if he hit him square in the face and dropped the kid.
Eh?! Is this a wind up?!?! Are you both in on it?!
They must be the best actors in the world if its set up.
Its just the ways with the internet and all the tons of news and information going every which way.
These things dont often get noticed till a whiles afterwards because the right people finally notice them.
Its just the ways with the internet and all the tons of news and information going every which way.
These things dont often get noticed till a whiles afterwards because the right people finally notice them.
I don't know why it happened but my initial thought (knowing how chavs act) would be a scenario such as, bunch of chavs call guy names etc to goad him, he ignores them and they follow him home, he still ignores them and goes into his home and then Les (head chav) kicks his door in and gives it the big one.
I know we're not in the USA but over there you can defend your home with a gun if someone breaks in and your life, and the lives of your family members feel threatened.
I'm no keyboard warrior / tough guy but I have lived on council estates, some rough, in my time and that chav got less than he deserved so the presence of cameras saved him a real good hiding. I mean, he only got punched to the ground, I wonder what he planned to do to karate guy, and then to karate guys family?
I really do find it hard to have any kind of empathy for Les the local hardnut chav.
It just begs the question what would we think if the chav had floored karate guy, and then his little chav buddies jumped over to join in and one bad kick to the head killed the guy and then they ran into his home and raped his wife.
When is it appropriate to defend ourselves and our homes with force?
Violence isn't nice, or cool and more often than not there are better solutions to problems, I just don't see another way out of this situation for karate guy.
Do you?
Oh yes you can
Public Perception of Self-Defence
There has been confusion about what is permitted under the law when an individual is acting in self-defence. Some have even suggested that the law gives more protection to criminals than to honest citizens acting to protect themselves, their family and their homes. There is a belief that citizens in the USA are in a much stronger position as far as the law on self-defence is concerned.
However, although not enshrined in statute, the law in this country is very clear:
an individual is entitled to protect themselves or others;
they may inflict violence and/or use weapons to do so;
the level of violence may include killing the assailant; and,
an individual may even act pre-emptively and still be found to have acted in self-defence.
The protection offered to the honest citizen by the principle of self-defence comes in two stages.
The Crown Prosecution Service
Before a case gets to court the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) will have to decide whether it should go that far. In reaching this decision there are various factors that the CPS will take into account, including:
Whether there is likely to be enough evidence to secure a conviction; and,
Whether a prosecution is in the public interest.
The CPS has stated that citizens who have acted reasonably and in good faith to protect themselves, their families or their property should not face prosecution for their acts.
There will be instances where the circumstances of an individual case demand that it goes to court. These may include cases where it is not clear that an individual really was acting in self-defence or where serious injuries or death have resulted. However, this does not mean that a death will automatically lead to prosecution
Self-Defence and the Courts
If an individual is prosecuted after having acted, or having claimed to act, in self-defence the courts will apply the following test:
Was the force used by the individual reasonable in the circumstances as he or she believed them to be?
The jury will have to answer this question based on the facts as the individual saw them when he acted as he did. A person is entitled to use reasonable force to protect themselves, members of their family or even a complete stranger if they genuinely believe that they are in danger or are the victim of an unlawful act, such as an assault. An individual may even take what is known as a pre-emptive strike if they honestly believe that the circumstances demand it. This means that a person can use force if they believe that there is a threat of imminent violence if they do not act first.
What if Someone Makes a Mistake?
The law of self-defence can even excuse an assault, or a death, when the individual was wrong in their belief that they had to act in the way they did - when there was never any real danger. If the person genuinely believed they were acting in self-defence that can be enough. However, if the only reason the person got it wrong was because they were drunk they are unlikely to succeed in using this as a defence.
Conclusion
The law as it stands offers very wide protection to those individuals who use violence to protect themselves or others. Such is the protection that an act which could otherwise have constituted a very serious offence becomes lawful. Further, it is the stated intention of the CPS that individuals who act in this way should not even find themselves in court.
Now as a FAC holder I have looking into this matter a good while, and been advised if you feel your life or someone else's life is in danger you can defend yourself and others with extreme force = dead person if the need is there.
Public Perception of Self-Defence
There has been confusion about what is permitted under the law when an individual is acting in self-defence. Some have even suggested that the law gives more protection to criminals than to honest citizens acting to protect themselves, their family and their homes. There is a belief that citizens in the USA are in a much stronger position as far as the law on self-defence is concerned.
However, although not enshrined in statute, the law in this country is very clear:
an individual is entitled to protect themselves or others;
they may inflict violence and/or use weapons to do so;
the level of violence may include killing the assailant; and,
an individual may even act pre-emptively and still be found to have acted in self-defence.
The protection offered to the honest citizen by the principle of self-defence comes in two stages.
The Crown Prosecution Service
Before a case gets to court the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) will have to decide whether it should go that far. In reaching this decision there are various factors that the CPS will take into account, including:
Whether there is likely to be enough evidence to secure a conviction; and,
Whether a prosecution is in the public interest.
The CPS has stated that citizens who have acted reasonably and in good faith to protect themselves, their families or their property should not face prosecution for their acts.
There will be instances where the circumstances of an individual case demand that it goes to court. These may include cases where it is not clear that an individual really was acting in self-defence or where serious injuries or death have resulted. However, this does not mean that a death will automatically lead to prosecution
Self-Defence and the Courts
If an individual is prosecuted after having acted, or having claimed to act, in self-defence the courts will apply the following test:
Was the force used by the individual reasonable in the circumstances as he or she believed them to be?
The jury will have to answer this question based on the facts as the individual saw them when he acted as he did. A person is entitled to use reasonable force to protect themselves, members of their family or even a complete stranger if they genuinely believe that they are in danger or are the victim of an unlawful act, such as an assault. An individual may even take what is known as a pre-emptive strike if they honestly believe that the circumstances demand it. This means that a person can use force if they believe that there is a threat of imminent violence if they do not act first.
What if Someone Makes a Mistake?
The law of self-defence can even excuse an assault, or a death, when the individual was wrong in their belief that they had to act in the way they did - when there was never any real danger. If the person genuinely believed they were acting in self-defence that can be enough. However, if the only reason the person got it wrong was because they were drunk they are unlikely to succeed in using this as a defence.
Conclusion
The law as it stands offers very wide protection to those individuals who use violence to protect themselves or others. Such is the protection that an act which could otherwise have constituted a very serious offence becomes lawful. Further, it is the stated intention of the CPS that individuals who act in this way should not even find themselves in court.
Now as a FAC holder I have looking into this matter a good while, and been advised if you feel your life or someone else's life is in danger you can defend yourself and others with extreme force = dead person if the need is there.