The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

[Hitman_Leon]

I think one issue we need to address here is,

We do need people like Nick Griffin, Abu Hamza ect ect,

The extreme views offered by these people work to reinforce the idea that we have a society broadly based on principles that offer fairness to all people, without these people maybe some would loose sight of principles that make life better in our country.

Labour do need to address a broken imigration system but we dont need any extremist body to make right what has gone wrong with imigration only the application of common sense.

 

[muon]

if you are all so naive about the current economic situation, the state of UK politics, the impartiality of the media

and all you can do is try and shoot individuals down who state something just to wind you up/annoy/provoke then its a v sad world we live in


Every party in UK politics is lacking, what we need is a party that actually stands for what we belive in as a Nation and a people, what we all say on here means nothing as it falls on deaf ears, that is the problem!!!!

So what are the policies of this hypothetical party?

What does the country believe in?

 

[Murf]

Good answer.

So who is right then, everyone who has an opinion, because then again Griffin must be right on his views? Anyway i have to get up in 5 hours. Bye all

In the case of what is socially and morally acceptable? Since homosexuality causes these 'devout religious followers' and yourself no harm whatsoever anyone who has no problem with it would be 'right'. In my opinion of course.

I just can't fathom how someone can get upset, or angry about another persons choices that have no impact on them whatsoever. We're living in two thousand and nine for Christ's sake!

 

[G1BB0]

Doesn't mean jack-**** though does it? Age is relative. We have an entire society of adults out there who never grow-up. Now, I'm not saying that you're immature - just that you have a very simple world-view. I don't know if that's because you're too scared to rock the boat, or wether you've never been in turbulant waters, either way: I can't agree with you.

Anyway, kudos for taking that as it was intended and not getting riled. I do actually respect posters for that, so welcome to the list.

lol, cheers fella, I just enjoy the banter, I am slightly homophobic but was much worse, I just enjoy peoples responses

its all good fun and v good to see ocuk members are slightly politically minded (dunno if thats a good thing lol)

 

[UK|AL]

if you are all so naive about the current economic situation, the state of UK politics, the impartiality of the media

and all you can do is try and shoot individuals down who state something just to wind you up/annoy/provoke then its a v sad world we live in


Every party in UK politics is lacking, what we need is a party that actually stands for what we belive in as a Nation and a people, what we all say on here means nothing as it falls on deaf ears, that is the problem!!!!

Actually no, the way you treat people is one of the biggest characteristics of a country, regardless of the economic situation. If you can't treat people right, then you've got bigger problems.

 

[WalesOwl]

Politics is about choosing the lesser of two (or more) evils. Seems the BNP have some good policies but their bad policies are rather bad. Tories and Labour just have better bad policies

 

[Murf]

what we need is a party that actually stands for what we belive in as a Nation and a people

Which is?

And Gibbo..... I'd hazard a guess that most men in this country aren't homophobic bigots. Don't tar me with your brush.

 

[G1BB0]

So what are the policies of this hypothetical party?

What does the country believe in?

a hypothetical party? hmmmmm, if there was such a thing we wouldnt need an election cos they would be doing what the country and people wanted already, regardless of race, colour, ethnic bloody origin, sexual persuasion and so forth..... aint going to happen tho, we live in hope x

 

[G1BB0]

Murf, it was a wind up, chill out

regardless who we vote for, they all juggle the same policies and lucky dip the countries finances

 

[Madkjb]

utopia

 

[muon]

a hypothetical party? hmmmmm, if there was such a thing we wouldnt need an election cos they would be doing what the country and people wanted already, regardless of race, colour, ethnic bloody origin, sexual persuasion and so forth..... aint going to happen tho, we live in hope x

I don't know what you took hypothetical to mean, but I was asking for what you think this party would believe in.

Also, I suggest you read up on Arrow's Impossibility Theorem before making those latter claims.

 

[meghatronic]

Which is?

And Gibbo..... I'd hazard a guess that most men in this country aren't homophobic bigots. Don't tar me with your brush.

You know, I'm not so sure. If there was a completely private and anonymous survey of our fair Isle, with the one question "Do you agree with homosexuality" I suspect the majority will say no.

I also suspect that if split the results via age, the differences would be startling. E.g. >50 no, <20 yes etc.

 

[Chimerical]

You know, I'm not so sure. If there was a completely private and anonymous survey of our fair Isle, with the one question "Do you agree with homosexuality" I suspect the majority will say no.

I also suspect that if split the results via age, the differences would be startling. E.g. >50 no, <20 yes etc.

The majority probably would say no, as they did in America with regards to the Proposition 8 thing.

 

[stockhausen]

because I am against it, the bible is against it, most heterosexual men are against it, some laws are against it, hey, any holes a goal tho fella so fill your boots

The first reason you can think of to explain why Homosexuality is wrong, immoral and sick is that you are "against it"?

You then go on to suggest that some book of fairy tales is against it, presume to be able to speak for "most heterosexual men" and finally that "some laws are against it"

None of that seems to be a very plausible basis for criticising others does it now? Be honest - surely honesty features in your bible too?

 

[G1BB0]

I don't know what you took hypothetical to mean, but I was asking for what you think this party would believe in.

Also, I suggest you read up on Arrow's Impossibility Theorem before making those latter claims.

ghost, I aint a bloody scholar so dont go quoting irrelative ****e

it all comes down to us all realising what is best for the country and a party that actually listens and acts on this.... wont happen, live in hope, blah blah blah

 

[meghatronic]

Ignore.

 

[G1BB0]

The first reason you can think of to explain why Homosexuality is wrong, immoral and sick is that you are "against it"?

You then go on to suggest that some book of fairy tales is against it, presume to be able to speak for "most heterosexual men" and finally that "some laws are against it"

None of that seems to be a very plausible basis for criticising others does it now? Be honest - surely honesty features in your bible too?

yes I am against it, got 2 sons and would hate it if they were 'gay' if they were then I would come to terms with it, wouldnt be the end of the world, yes I would be unhappy but what can one do?

seriously tho, some of u are so bloody keen to ostricise everyone.... think about a)whats said b) its a forum c)its late d) is it worth it

 

[muon]

ghost, I aint a bloody scholar so dont go quoting irrelative ****e

it all comes down to us all realising what is best for the country and a party that actually listens and acts on this.... wont happen, live in hope, blah blah blah

I'm starting a party tomorrow. I need to write the manifesto tonight.

What should it have?

 

[G1BB0]

lol

upto you, there is a gap there tho

 

[muon]

I give up.

edit:

if you are all so naive about the current economic situation, the state of UK politics, the impartiality of the media

and all you can do is try and shoot individuals down who state something just to wind you up/annoy/provoke then its a v sad world we live in


Every party in UK politics is lacking, what we need is a party that actually stands for what we belive in as a Nation and a people, what we all say on here means nothing as it falls on deaf ears, that is the problem!!!!

So what are the policies of this hypothetical party?

What does the country believe in?

a hypothetical party? hmmmmm, if there was such a thing we wouldnt need an election cos they would be doing what the country and people wanted already, regardless of race, colour, ethnic bloody origin, sexual persuasion and so forth..... aint going to happen tho, we live in hope x

I don't know what you took hypothetical to mean, but I was asking for what you think this party would believe in.

Also, I suggest you read up on Arrow's Impossibility Theorem before making those latter claims.

ghost, I aint a bloody scholar so dont go quoting irrelative ****e

it all comes down to us all realising what is best for the country and a party that actually listens and acts on this.... wont happen, live in hope, blah blah blah

I'm starting a party tomorrow. I need to write the manifesto tonight.

What should it have?

lol

upto you, there is a gap there tho