The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

This indigenous malarky is getting on my **** a bit now. They obviously mean anyone from the Ice Age up until the 1900s. Skin colour is irrelevant, he means "Celts, Danish and Scandinavian Vikings, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots(originally from Ireland), Normans, Irish, Romans with a mixture of refugees from Holland(Dutch Huguenot), French, Russians, Poland and other east Europeans and from the Commonwealth".
 
The show was a farce, from Jack straws initial well planned 1st answer which he wasted 5mins on, to the end.

If this was going to be a lets expose the BNP show, they should have let him try and defend himself. This was like bullies in a play ground!

I'd rather see this clown sit round with 1-2 other politicians and actually debate some things which matter to the voting public.

Not one person offered any type of fix for the immigration debacle and the BNP could only gain from that.
 
dirtydog said:
British indigenous people are white. Why are we so afraid to acknowledge this? If you aren't white you aren't indigenous to Britain. You can be a British citizen but you aren't native to this country or indeed this continent (ie. whites = europeans and those of european ancestry).
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You have to wonder why Nick Griffen was so reluctant to spell out in clear, unequivocal terms what exactly he means by "Indigenous British people"? Why was he so afraid to acknowledge that he meant "Whites only" + other classifications to exclude the Poles, French, etc., etc., etc?

Perhaps you can point to where he and the BNP do explain clearly and unequivocally what they mean by "Indigenous British people"?

The best I can find is:
The indigenous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of ‘Indigenous Caucasian’ consist of members of:
  • i) The Anglo-Saxon Folk Community
  • ii) The Celtic Scottish Folk Community
  • iii) The Scots-Northern Irish Folk Community
  • iv) The Celtic Welsh Folk Community
  • v) The Celtic Irish Folk Community
  • vi) The Celtic Cornish Folk Community
  • vii) The Anglo-Saxon-Celtic Folk Community
  • viii) The Celtic-Norse Folk Community
  • ix) The Anglo-Saxon-Norse Folk Community
  • x) The Anglo-Saxon-Indigenous European Folk Community
  • xi) Members of these ethnic groups who reside either within or outside Europe but ethnically derive from them.
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Do you think that perhaps he was worried that he might be laughed at as a result of his Volk obsession?
 
Showboat said:
If this was going to be a lets expose the BNP show, they should have let him try and defend himself. This was like bullies in a play ground!

I'd rather see this clown sit round with 1-2 other politicians and actually debate some things which matter to the voting public.
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the problem with that is that cant justifiably defend his beliefs and he hasn't got the intelligence and wit to circumnavigate the question like the rest of them. I was embarrassed for him last night, he was totally out of his depth and made himself look like a compete idiot.

If they want to damage the BNP get this clown on TV more tbh, he'll bring them to their knees in weeks.
 
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He was probably worried as soon as he said the dreaded word 'white' that the would be booed and shouted over by the audience and the panelists, and he wouldn't get another word in. It would be like 'see everyone, he said white! This proves he's racist - same old BNP!' (cue rapturous applause while Nick Griffin is forced to sit there without being given any opportunity to respond)

I am sure if he was given a proper platform to fully air his views, given more than 30 seconds to speak and wasn't being constantly interrupted then he would be happy to go into detail but the format of the show as it stands does not permit that.

(in reply to stockhausen)
 
meghatronic said:
This indigenous malarky is getting on my **** a bit now. They obviously mean anyone from the Ice Age up until the 1900s. Skin colour is irrelevant, he means "Celts, Danish and Scandinavian Vikings, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots(originally from Ireland), Normans, Irish, Romans with a mixture of refugees from Holland(Dutch Huguenot), French, Russians, Poland and other east Europeans and from the Commonwealth".
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It would be easyer to just say anyone living here pre 1945.
 
I would ask him by what legal changes, negotiation and consent he intends to, as his party's constitution states, restore the ethnic makeup of 1948 Britain.

For example, how he intends to remove 4.6 million non-whites from the UK, 50% of which were born and have lived their entire lives in the UK.
 
ffs he's meant to be a politician and your saying he cant deal with London ?

what's the point of him then ?
 
stockhausen said:
Where exactly would you have based this edition of Question Time in order to ensure that Griffin was not mobbed and to make it more representative of the mainstream of British Opinion?
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FWIW I don't think the London venue is to blame here, so much as the BBC's decision to rig the audience. While London is more multicultural and multiracial, there was hardly a normal British white person in the audience and they aren't that thin on the ground in London just yet.
 
dirtydog said:
He was probably worried as soon as he said the dreaded word 'white' that the would be booed and shouted over by the audience and the panelists, and he wouldn't get another word in. It would be like 'see everyone, he said white! This proves he's racist - same old BNP!' (cue rapturous applause while Nick Griffin is forced to sit there without being given any opportunity to respond)

I am sure if he was given a proper platform to fully air his views, given more than 30 seconds to speak and wasn't being constantly interrupted then he would be happy to go into detail but the format of the show as it stands does not permit that.

(in reply to stockhausen)
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he has: please view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04QolIvfQEw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsnSZnhygQY&feature=related

these are his views; he cant defend them or justify them in front of an audience that is not immediately sympathetic or amenable to his thoughts.

If he was smart or empathic or charismatic me might be persuasive on some issues. But he is clumsy, biggotted and deluded.

If the BNP stood for logical, impartial and tighterborder control, more people would vote for them. They dont, they stand for racist blame mongering that is either used, by voters, to shock the main stream parties or adopted in the deluded belief that ethnically cleaning the UK will improve working class white peoples' way of life.
 
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