The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

[LabR@t]

When Stoke's first BNP Counsellor (Steve Batkin) got voted in, he didn't say one word in 12 months in the Council chambers because he hadn't got a clue.
I saw him in a meeting and when asked about his time as a Counsellor he just said "It's OK" and then finished with "If you know any old people who want their gardens doing then get in touch".

I would rather have somebody twiddle them for a year while get the ideas right than THIS

Comments on that site are pretty much damming !

We have to stop talking and take to the city centres and bring the United Kingdom to a complete stop. and keep it this way until Labour are forced to resign and we get an election, After which we still keep the country at a standstill untill BLAIR,BROWN,STRAW ,MANDELSON,BALLS and all the rest of this **** of a party are Brought to account and locked away, This should also include any collusion in all this by any of the other partys, and keep this lockdown in place until we get a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.lets make contact with each other and get on with it.
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According to the United Nations it is a crime against humanity to 'displace' an indigenous people'... so WE have been DISPLACED by rampant and incontrolled immigration!

Blair/ Brown and the WHOLE of parliament who must have know about it have committed a crime against US the people of Britain.

I therefore challenge the United Nations to take action against Blair and this parliament in keeping with their OWN laws on humanity.
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[dirtydog]

Griffin was tormented like a crazed bull in a bullring. The studio audience was almost entirely hostile, hurling banderillas of rage and contempt at him, and most of the panellists felt obliged to wear their indignation ostentatiously on their sleeves.

There were some very good and sharp questions from the floor, admittedly, but there were also many that were just expressions of personal contempt, a few so extreme that I am surprised the BBC allowed them.

What happened on Question Time was not rational debate. It was argument by emotion, argument by abuse. It was the very opposite of free speech. At times the show was truly infantile, with people interrupting each other in their frenzy.

What Griffin’s Question Time also showed was, for lack of a better word, the pusillanimous political correctness of the BBC and its lack of moral courage — something not peculiar to it, but characteristic of most public debate today. Deciding to involve a studio audience and then rigging it, to get the sort of response that’s felt to be right, is a form of moral cowardice and it happens all the time.

The BBC should not have chosen an audience that was so deeply hostile to Griffin. The point of that can only have been an attempt to prove its non-racist credentials.

And, finally, it was quite astonishing, in an important and contentious national event of this kind, to choose a panellist who doesn’t seem to represent anything British very much, although she was naturalised in 1997.

What was the point of having the American-born-and-raised writer Bonnie Greer? Actually we can guess, I regret to say, and the point will not be lost upon the BNP. She was there to be black and to emote against Griffin, which she did with an offensively silly flamboyance.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/minette_marrin/article6888961.ece

Some good reader comments on there, universally in opposition to the BBC.

Even those who don't support the BNP's policies can see that immigration is way out of hand, for example:

The BBC has previously interviewed Islamic fundamentalists who openly wish to end our way of life and establish a caliphate. They were not treated in this manner. I'd like to think the usual British approach is to engage in fair, reasoned debate and show up the flaws in extremist ideas, but it seems the BBC find it easier to 'attack' some sections of society than others.

With my Chinese girlfriend and a sister in an inter-racial marriage I'm hardly in favour of racial purity or any of that rubbish (and how boring would London be?) - but neither do I wish 10m more people to arrive in this crowded country or to admit those who oppose our way of life. I could never bring myself to vote BNP, but I'm glad they're raising these issues, and I'm clearly not alone.

 

[Mr Jones]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/minette_marrin/article6888961.ece

Some good reader comments on there, universally in opposition to the BBC.

Even those who don't support the BNP's policies can see that immigration is way out of hand, for example:

I love how you simply refuse to answer any responses put forward to you after you've dump a tangent and just find articles that are of the reporter's personal view to current affairs. I am beginning to grow tire of you DD.

So how about I see your article to an article straight from an interview with Nick Griffin's Mother-in-Law?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...r-in-law-says-the-BNP-leader-is-a-racist.html

Mrs Cook said that her daughter claimed he would turn his back on the far right, but when they married in 1985 he remained active and she became the main breadwinner.

“She did everything – brought money into the house and raised the children. Nick played at his silly politics but never really contributed financially,” she told the Sunday Mirror.

Mrs Cook, who lives near Chester, added: “He pretends to be a man of the people, but the truth is he hasn’t done an honest day's work in his life. My daughter is a nurse and has always had a full-time job. She was working 12-hour shifts even when their children were babies.

Mr Griffin lives with his wife and four children in a remote farmhouse outside Welshpool in Powys.

Mrs Cook, a widow, said her son-in-law had toned down his views in recent years.

She said: “Nick’s not half as bad as he used to be, but he still believes black people and Muslims have no place in this country. He’s been forced to change his views now he’s in Parliament, but whether that’s out of want or necessity ... you decide.”

 

[dirtydog]

BNP to get free advertising on BBC for general election


A new row broke today when it was confirmed that Nick Griffin's BNP will get free television advertising during next year's general election.

The far-Right party will get at least one Party Election Broadcast in the three weeks before Polling Day.

Gerry Gable, publisher of anti-fascist magazine Searchlight, said they should be cancelled. “I think it's ludicrous for the BBC to give the BNP any more publicity through any more airtime,” he said.

“I think once was enough. They came out of last night's Question Time without any integrity and no support apart from the handful of people they already had in the audience.”

Under broadcasting law any party that contests at least a sixth of the seats in England is entitled to a free broadcast of up to four minutes and 40 seconds in length.

Simon Derby, the BNP's spokesman said the party would fight “at least” that many seats and probably several times more and hoped to qualify for two broadcasts.

“We do not know how many seats we will contest in the end - but the number is increasing all the time,” he said.

A BBC spokesman stressed that a right to a free broadcast was set down in UK law and it had no power to refuse. The BNP was given two broadcasts in May this year for the European elections and one during the 2005 general election.

Weyman Bennett, joint national secretary of Unite Against Fascism, said: “If they get more chances to broadcast then we will witness the increase in racist attacks and bigotry and go back to the days of the 1970s.”

“I think the BBC is being totally irresponsible to try and legitimise the BNP and we would urge them to reconsider their position.

“We can already see the corrosive impact of the BNP in Barking and Dagenham and showing more of them on television is an insult to every Jewish, black and Asian citizen to pay their licence fee for.”

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...nds-kkk-and-attacks-islam-on-question-time.do

 

[LabR@t]

good move

 

[Nitefly]

I'm not really sure why people are so angry that the crowd was so biased and aggressive. I would imagine that only 1/50 of the population thought that the BNP were anything more than a joke.

Even if it was 1/5, you would still have an uproar against it.

 

[Mr Doovde]

Still, as much as I dislike them, one good thing the BNP might of achieved is to force the major three parties to discuss and construct a reasoned response to the issue of immigration, whatever that is, instead of burying their heads in the sand. I live in hope.

 

[Hitman_Leon]

We can already see the comic impact of the BNP they are Barking mad with no idea of real policy, only vague scant populist comment to cater to the uneducated underclass who feel disenchanted by the major parties who although they do have the edge maybe need a push from the fringe to retake the initative and reclaim the well meaning but mislead supporters of the BNP

Sorry dirtydog, dont want your brown shirt brothers thinking you disrespected the party .

 

[cupidstunt]

The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all ` fully star out swear words` in here.

 

[ThundyCat]

Just so everyone is clear that is not Dirtydog's comments as quoted by "Hitman_leon"but text he was quoting from a website in his previous post.

 

[Hitman_Leon]

Just so everyone is clear that is not Dirtydog's comments as quoted by "Hitman_leon"but text he was quoting from a website in his previous post.

Its ok everyone knows he could not post such truth, but I fixed it to avoid confusion .

 

[stockhausen]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/minette_marrin/article6888961.ece
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Some good reader comments on there, universally in opposition to the BBC.
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I think that a little research into Minette Marrin who wrote that particular article will show that for some reason, she has a particular long-running vendetta against the BBC . . . perhaps it has something to do with the fact that she writes for the Times which is part of Rupert Murdoch's News International Group

 

[Moogman]

Still, as much as I dislike them, one good thing the BNP might of achieved is to force the major three parties to discuss and construct a reasoned response to the issue of immigration, whatever that is, instead of burying their heads in the sand. I live in hope.

Agreed.

 

[dirtydog]

I think that a little research into Minette Marrin who wrote that particular article will show that for some reason, she has a particular long-running vendetta against the BBC . . . perhaps it has something to do with the fact that she writes for the Times which is part of Rupert Murdoch's News International Group

Do all the readers at the Times who, apparently without exception agree with her comments, have a long-running vendetta against the BBC too?

 

[Mr Jones]

Do all the readers at the Times who, apparently without exception agree with her comments, have a long-running vendetta against the BBC too?

Anyone and everyone can comment on there, who is it to say all those who commented on there ARE Times reader and not brought to that article because it's been quoted forward to argue how Nick Griffin is being lynched by lefty BBC?

Rather vague assumption you're making there.

 

[dirtydog]

Anyone and everyone can comment on there, who is it to say all those who commented on there ARE Times reader and not brought to that article because it's been quoted forward to argue how Nick Griffin is being lynched by lefty BBC?

Rather vague assumption you're making there.

Okay, readers of the Times website.

 

[mmj_uk]

There were some WW2 veterans on Sky News earlier a couple of them voiced support for BNP, I imagine it must hurt to fight for your country only to see it become unrecognisable in a few short decades due to out of control immigration and a lack of encouragement/willingness to integrate.

 

[cheets64]

There were some WW2 veterans on Sky News earlier a couple of them voiced support for BNP, I imagine it must hurt to fight for your country only to see it become unrecognisable in a few short decades due to out of control immigration and a lack of encouragement/willingness to integrate.

Rubbish, if anything the white British people are turning this country into a mess not immigrants, how can you even say that immigrants have brought the downfall of this country.

 

[Dolph]

you saying that as i voted labour and they made a mess of it I shouldn't be allowed another vote?

I'm saying your judgement seems to be poor with regards to which parties and policies you believe should be enacted. As such there are times when I wonder if there should be some sort of qualification to vote beyond what there is now, given that some people keep consistently making very bad choices.

Oh well on that basis the majority won't be able to vote this election then will they!

Not really, given that the majority of the public voted against Labour (Labour secured 43.2% of the vote in 1997, 40.7% in 2001 and 35.5% in 2005). The parliamentary majority was a result of the electoral system, not a majority of votes.

You talk utter rubbish I'm glad I live in a country where I can still vote for a bnp if it was down the fascist left wing thugs who masquerade as UAF I wouldn't be able to exercise my democratic vote, oh the irony of UAF.

I would never prevent you from voting BNP, I just fully embrace my right to highlight the idiocy of the choice.