Parent and Child spaces

Dogbreath said:
That is most definitely illegal.
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what law does it break ?

the sign on them that says "parent and child only". Well thats contract law, implying the person that enters the carpark enters into a contract to obey the rules.

However, the ticket is left on the car, which if not paid, will be sent in writing to the legal keeper of the vehicle.

However, how do you know that the legal keeper of the vehicle entered into said contract ? you have none.

The same legal precedent that the keeper is automatically liable only applies to council parking fines and speeding tickets. Contract law is not enforcable by these means.

Do some research first before making wild inaccurate statements.
 
Wicksta said:
You sound like such a nice bloke sometimes. I don't (thankfully) believe that 'most' people are as selfish as you, or there would be a lot more people parking in those spots, ie. 'most' people. It's the exception not the norm, at least round here.
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I don't actually park in those spaces, I'm just saying that I wouldn't feel bad doing so. The main reasons I don't is fear of reprimand / comeback, as well as asking myself how I would feel if I were a parent. I'm just presenting the other side of the argument.

Until something concrete prevents people doing so, knowing anything whatsoever about human nature should lead most people to the conclusion that the fact that people take advantage of something not designed for them yet not illegal, is no great surprise.
 
Wicksta said:
Try reading the rest of the thread and maybe the research will help you to not make wild accusations. :D
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damn the humand mind, i actually read the quote the right way round as well.

nevermind.

you've quoted my mistake so theres no point editing it now :p
 
Just got back from a couple of weeks in the States. Amazingly, I saw absolutely NO parent and baby parking spots, though there were usually disabled spaces.
The reason was simple, the parking spots were simply a lot bigger than ours. So maybe we should stop moaning/abusing regarding use/misuse of the toddler spaces here and simply demand that the supermarkets stop buggering about give us some decent sized parking spaces for EVERYONE. Yes I know that this will reduce total parking availability, but that's just the way it goes.
 
I don't see the problem with just parking in normal spaces. :confused:

My dads disabled, he lost a leg, 50% use of his right shoulder and struggles to get in and out of cars without the doors being wide open. So when I see an idiot parking in a disabled bay without a badge it makes me want to grab them so they can come and watch my dad struggle to get out of a damn car. There is no excuse for it I don't care what car you drive.

As for parent & child spaces, they generally are helpful to parents with childs (shock horror). Thats why I won't park in them because the chances are by me not parking there just saved a parent and child a bit of hassle.

Now I can't stand people being careless when it comes to car park dings, so I will go to the other end of the car park and find a space with no cars around. At the end of the day, its me who doesn't want a fresh new dent, its me who decided to buy this car so it should be me that goes out of my way to prevent this happening, not causing trouble for someone who generally needs a decent sized space.
 
Didn't know parking was so strict for cars...

On the bike, I pull up right at the entrance on the pavement. Not in anyones way and generally safe due to being at the front of a shop so no one will try to nick it :)

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Park in them all the time - can't understand why having a kid should give anyone priority over anything in life.

I've chosen not to have a kid - as such I get no tax credits, no child care, no financial benefit what-so-ever (even though I'll be using services less than people with kids) and yet this isn't taken into account. Grinds my gears that just because you have a kid you should park right next to the door. I won't park in disabled spaces though - those I agree with. Another thing that grinds my gears is that in certain hotel car parks they have women only spaces. If you want an equal society then these spaces have to go.



M.
 
Quality Hotel - Stoke-on-Trent as you go in to the car park under the barrier if you look to your left you will see a few spaces with 'Womens parking' on them - I'd like to say they are double the size than the normal spaces (though they're not really).



M.
 
m4cc45 said:
Park in them all the time - can't understand why having a kid should give anyone priority over anything in life.

I've chosen not to have a kid - as such I get no tax credits, no child care, no financial benefit what-so-ever (even though I'll be using services less than people with kids) and yet this isn't taken into account. Grinds my gears that just because you have a kid you should park right next to the door.
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IT'S NOT JUST FOR GETTING TO THE DOOR OF THE SHOP.

Do you honestly want parents and their kids swinging their doors into your car in a normal space? Or a kid flailing about being put into a car seat kicking your car?

The extra space is so that parents can access the car better and get the kids in and out easier.

You sound like a right idiot. Most people with kids don't have tax credits, they have to pay for them out of their own wages, you don't, you get to keep all of your money for yourself. Get a clue, I mean really.


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agnes said:
Didn't know parking was so strict for cars...

On the bike, I pull up right at the entrance on the pavement. Not in anyones way and generally safe due to being at the front of a shop so no one will try to nick it :)

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I miss that sooo much about a bike, although I was once fined for driving on the pavement, even though I pushed the bike on safely... the officer then backtracked casue it was clear he didn't see me push it on then said it was a danger if it fell over... but other than that, could park close to the door of anywhere safely and saved a lot of walking when at Uni.

In cars I park miles away from anyone as they are all selfish door swingers and I can't stand any marks on my well cared for cars.
 
The spaces are exactly the same size in the local Tesco here - just with a stupid push chair logo on it. Without trying to be obnoxiously rude but no one forced you to have kids - there's no reason at all why you should be entitled to a particular parking space in a car park than anyone else.

So having a kid gives you no benefits at all? Of course it does - the main criteria (I was going to link the child benefits page here but you can google it) is that the child is under 16 which is a pretty big criteria.


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You have large normal spaces or small P&C ones?

The ones that I use (and the same for every Tesco I've been to) are effectively 1.5x-2x the size of a normal space as they have painted hashings along the sides of them for child loading and unloading.
 
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