The fact that some people believe whether an animal feels pain or not needs to be proven is completely beyond me.
Chinese diners eat live fish
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The fact that some people believe whether an animal feels pain or not needs to be proven is completely beyond me.
Rather than irony, it's utter stupidity.
"Yay, let's go torture people to show them why it's wrong to torture."
I genuinely believe he didn't even think through his comment.
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I'd try it.
LOL, eating it alive is fine, but prodding it with a chopstick, now you've gone too far.
LOL, eating it alive is fine, but prodding it with a chopstick, now you've gone too far.
Apparently it's quite a fancy thing to do as well. My supervisor spent a few years in Japan and said that live squid is an expensive delicacy over there. He got guilt-tripped into trying writhing squid tentacles at the end of a business dinner.
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Saw the same thing in japan, its how they "show" that is fresh. It is also why you don't have a frozen meat section in supermarket in HK.
I just saw that vid in the telegraph.
Some dialogue that's said
"It's not moving"
pokes
"This is scary" (by the girl)
"this is terriying" (same girl)
someone else said "deep fried", referring to how its cooked.
The men seem to seen it before, the girl clearly hasn't.
It doesn't sound like they are joking and laughing, the girl is scared, not a funny laugh, and they were talking in the background about order 2 more cans of drinks?
I just saw that vid in the telegraph.
Some dialogue that's said
"It's not moving"
pokes
"This is scary" (by the girl)
"this is terriying" (same girl)
someone else said "deep fried", referring to how its cooked.
The men seem to seen it before, the girl clearly hasn't.
It doesn't sound like they are joking and laughing, the girl is scared, not a funny laugh, and they were talking in the background about order 2 more cans of drinks?
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Pretty sick, odd how these Asians are so advanced in some ways and backwards in others.
Call it culture but toruring animals aint my thing.
Call it culture but toruring animals aint my thing.
Like Raymond Lin said, it's not about torture, it's about freshness. Just like the UK is a bit worked up about nutritional content, the Japanese and other Asians look for real, proper freshness. And you can't get more fresh than still twitching...
I think that's incredibly cruel. There are other ways to show that the fish is fresh. You pick your lobster from a tank. Why not pick the fish, watch it have it's head removed and be fried. Bit more humane even though both of those acts aren't really, it's less cruel than keeping it alive while you cook it.
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And you can't get more fresh than still twitching...[/QUOTE]
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They do pick the fish (well, kinda), it is kept in a tank in the restaurant.
In that case how much freshness can be lost in the space of about 20 minutes when its removed from the tank and cooked?! I don't think wrapping it's head to keep it alive while cooking is going to keep it any fresher.
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I guess its about "show"? and flaunting that fact visually. It is almost like a cooking (or lack of) technique.
an unpleasent video but not a patch on the chinese fur farm videos. i'd avoid buying anything made in china again, especially fur (but it's almost impossible) i put my safety boots on the other day when i was on a site visit and they are made in china and lined with some sort of fur, i'd put a months wage on it being cat or dog 
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I would eat this.
It's a fish for Christ sake. You can point me to as many scientific studies as you want, but I do not believe a fish has the capacity to understand pain on a level that we can in any way comprehend. And seeing as it's impossible to prove it either way, I'll believe what ever allows me to eat awesome food. And that looks awesome.
I didn't like the poking and prodding though... but that was obviously just to show on the video that it was still alive and flipping.
It's a fish for Christ sake. You can point me to as many scientific studies as you want, but I do not believe a fish has the capacity to understand pain on a level that we can in any way comprehend. And seeing as it's impossible to prove it either way, I'll believe what ever allows me to eat awesome food. And that looks awesome.
I didn't like the poking and prodding though... but that was obviously just to show on the video that it was still alive and flipping.
Erghh I suppose so.
As long as I never have to witness it I'll forget it happens. I'm no animal rights activist but put the damn thing out of its misery.
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So cause 1000% more pain for a 0.00001% increase in freshness.
Why not just kill it 5 minutes before you eat it instead of cooking it alive and then eating it alive. I mean come on, it isn't honestly going to taste much nicer. Seems more like a bit of a novetly at the detriment of an animal.
I am not against using animals for our benefit at all, Fur, Leather, meat is all good but just do it in a humaine manner, no need to be a ****** about it.
Just like we locked Josef Fritzl in a cell for life to show that locking people up is wrong?
Punishing a crime != committing one.
Why is inflicting mental suffering as a punishment right yet inflicting physical suffering wrong?
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