British man to be exectuted by Chinese

As China becomes ever more important, more Brits will go there and more will fall foul of their laws.

Expect to see more of this happening in the future.
 
For those of you who say tough he shouldn't of done it...

My little bro has mental health issues and this is just one example of something he has done.

One day we recieved a letter thanking us for switching energy supplier and it was adressed to him. Now when we asked what he had done he had no idea what we were going on about.

Eventually we managed to jog his mind and one of those sales guys had approached him and managed to get all our details to switch. He had no idea what the consequences could be or what the sales guy was on about.

Now if someone wanted to punish him for doing that (i know not a great example) then i would defend him to the hilt as he really doesnt understand simple things like that and he is very easily led.

I feel really sorry for the guy IF he really didn't have a clue what he was doing.
 
Unfortunatly a good many brits seem to think they can go abroad, act with completely disregard for the country they are visiting and think they are immune to any consequences... so I believe we will see a good bit more of it.
 
Rroff said:
This is just wrong... unfortunatly as a race we are extremely primitive... just look at some of the replies in this thread - barely above the level of enlightenment of cave men.
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Sometimes you can overthink things. That doesn't make you enlightened either, it makes you a procrastinator.
 
Rroff said:
This is just wrong... unfortunately as a race we are extremely primitive... just look at some of the replies in this thread - barely above the level of enlightenment of cave men.
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I agree to a point but you have to have some form of final authority and that lies with the Chinese Government in this case.

I don't recall reading here about the other 1000's of executions that take place in China every year but because he is a UK citizen the "capital punishment is wrong" slogan is out here in force. Is that perhaps not just a bit hypocritical?

And for the record I am on the fence with regards Capital Punishment.
 
batsy said:
Fair point :)

I don't think there is enough info on his circumstances/mental health to make a judgement on the rights and wrongs in this case.
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And this is exactly the reason why he cannot be killed. Even if you believe in capital punishment, surely you must feel that it cannot be used in circumstances that are the least bit unclear?
 
Energize said:
There are hundreds of different mental illnesses, most of them don't make you retarded...
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I agree, and my first post was a bit blinkered. I still think that there's not enough info to make the assertion that the death penalty is appropriate or not in this case.
 
Swordfish said:
I agree to a point but you have to have some form of final authority and that lies with the Chinese Government in this case.

I don't recall reading here about the other 1000's of executions that take place in China every year but because he is a UK citizen the "capital punishment is wrong" slogan is out here in force. Is that perhaps not just a bit hypocritical?

And for the record I am on the fence with regards Capital Punishment.
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People are always talking about how backwards China can be...
 
mejinks said:
Sometimes you can overthink things. That doesn't make you enlightened either, it makes you a procrastinator.
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Not sure what your point is

Swordfish said:
I agree to a point but you have to have some form of final authority and that lies with the Chinese Government in this case.

I don't recall reading here about the other 1000's of executions that take place in China every year but because he is a UK citizen the "capital punishment is wrong" slogan is out here in force. Is that perhaps not just a bit hypocritical?

And for the record I am on the fence with regards Capital Punishment.
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Unfortunatly the real consequences rarely occur to us unless they affect our personal life...

I don't have a problem with capital punishment as such personally... however I think its rare theres a case where it can be implemented without risk that someone innocent is going to die.
 
That figure will always be high seeing as the Chinese population is huge

I think the statistics below show a better representation, shame there was no figures for each nation that has capital punishment


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the rate of executions in China (0.07 per 100,000 people) is higher than the United States (0.02 per 100,000) and Pakistan (0.05 per 100,000), though Iran (0.25 per 100,000)
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Rroff said:
So someone who potentially wasn't responsible for their actions wanders into somewhere where they execute people for something that he goes onto do - and we should just say oh well thats what they do there?
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Wow, i'm getting an awful sense of deja vu.

I'm not going to have this out with you again Rroff. I think it was covered to death in the McKinnon thread. All I will add is that I feel the same way about this as I did before.
 
Swordfish said:
I don't recall reading here about the other 1000's of executions that take place in China every year but because he is a UK citizen the "capital punishment is wrong" slogan is out here in force. Is that perhaps not just a bit hypocritical?

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I think you'll find most of us always say it is totally wrong whenever it comes up in posts.

it is totally wrong and barbaric and serves no purpose.
 
batsy said:
How does a mentally ill man gain the funds to get himself to Tajikistan and then on a flight to China? Not sure we have the full story tbh...
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Ms Horsnell has said her father was approached by drug smugglers in Poland who convinced him they would make him a pop star in China.

She claims he was then duped by the gang into carrying a suitcase that did not belong to him.
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It cannot be right that there has not been any medical assessment done of Mr Shaikh's mental condition. In any judicial system that simply cannot be acceptable."
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the mental illness maybe bogus, but seeing as they haven't done any tests who knows.
 
Tute said:
Wow, i'm getting an awful sense of deja vu.

I'm not going to have this out with you again Rroff. I think it was covered to death in the McKinnon thread. All I will add is that I feel the same way about this as I did before.
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lol I wondered how long til that would come up.
 
Vampire said:
I'd hope anyone close to me would be more sensible.

As far as I'm concerned, when I travel (and I travel pretty often), I always respect the laws of whatever country I'm in. Doesn't matter if they're laws are stupid/draconian in my view, I'm a guest so I follow the rules.

Not much sympathy for the guy tbh.
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And if someone slips an illegeal item/substance onto your person/possessions without your knowledege?


Or if someone exhorts you to do it?
 
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