most pirated games 2009

r3loaded said:
For me, Steam has negated most of the advantages of piracy. The holiday specials in particular led me onto an impulse buying spree, purely because it was such good value. Now if all devs released demos for their games, it would completely nullify any argument for piracy.

In the MW2 case, I cancelled my plans to buy upon hearing about the dedicated server debacle. Yes, I did pirate it, played it a bit and got bored, so I uninstalled the game and deleted it all off my hard drive. Judging by the comments of others who did buy the game and play the multiplayer, it was money well saved.

If the game did have a demo, I wouldn't have felt any need to pirate. Ditto for GTA IV, which ran at about 15fps on lowest settings on my computer :(
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I in fact actually purchase games I always own "hard copies" of on steam (if they're on offer) as I can't be bothered with putting CDs in.

To me, they run in a scale, and that's:

Steam > Pirated games with a noCD crack > retail games/case disc.

That's taking in to consideration convenience and ease of acquiring.

Piracy is easier, and far better than retail games on discs, just in convenience terms.

Steam has the benefit too, plus the more "social" aspect of it, achievements, easy organising of multiplayer games, groups, in game contact/IMs (though I know you can add this to non-steam games) and the while steam community thing, seeing what games your "friends" have, what they've done on the game, their achievements and how long they've played it.
 
Tefal said:
I hope you don't have it loud enough for other to hear and better not turn it on when you have a guest round without the proper licenses!


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kylew said:
Have you ever borrowed a game from a friend? Lent a game to a friend? A game, music CD? DVD? Bluray?

Ever read the small print on a disc? "No unauthorised lending" etc.

How about bought media secondhand? They regard that to be just as "bad" as piracy.
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Ok i have but i try my best to be as legal as possible;)
 
NVIDIA_x64 said:
Ok i have but i try my best to be as legal as possible;)
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Part of the issues people have are the way they try to control the usage of their "goods" so strictly anyway.

They're not happy with getting your money, they still want to be able to control exactly what you do once you have bought it.

I prefer having a game "legally" of course, like on steam for example.

I am however, not prepared to blindly spend my monies on games that I have no way of trying properly, even those with demos, the demos are often poorly made and are using older builds of games that still have some issues.
 
Ya we have seen this with DIRT 2 demo, demo run fine but for some players, they buy full game, game don't start or has issues.

Game makers do have it a lot tougher to get their games to work on a PC than a console. PC have 3 different OS ( XP, Vista and Win 7 and bit32 and bit64 versions ) and a wide variety of hardware when it come to CPUs and video cards. And new games usually need new drivers for them to work OK with the new hardware.

The average cost of good 3D games is $40-$55 in the US and it non-refundable. So it a big risk today to buy a PC game and actually have it work well out the box, without a patch.

You almost have to download a pirated version of game to make sure it work, if you don't want to risk losing your hard earn $40-$55.

We had one guy in the GRID forum, that Codemasters and us in the forums , did all we could to try and get GRID to run on his computer ( he definitely had good hardware to run GRID ) but even with new patch, was unable to get his GRID to run. And Codemasters would not refund him the money for buying GRID.
 
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Im thankfull for pirating tbh. I buy games but i also pirate some and quite frankly the majority of them i pirate i barely play because i get bored of them because they are simply poor. Thus i would have wasted a lot of money on it. Though in truth a lot of them i would probably never of bought because i was not 100% sure they were going to be good. Infact i can't think of the last game i pirated and played for more then 3 days.

All those games up there are poor and as a result people pirated them the most because they didn't think they were worth the money but wanted to try. I downloaded the sims 3, got bored very quickly. It's no suprise that nfs is up there considering how bad their games are getting. Who would ever buy another one of their games blindly?

Further more i will never pay £40 for a pc game. I bit the bullet recently and paid it for fifa 10 and i died a little inside. Prices of games like mw2 are a joke. I hope more people pirate it just so they relise they cant price games like that. But it's that expensive because the cod series is now aimed at casual gamers.
 
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I wouldn't even pay £40 a game, there are planety of other good games out there for less.

can't say i m surprised through
 
This thread is way to long to go into but essentially I have done it, I don't always do it and if I do it and find that the game is good then I will buy it anyway to support the people behind it for actually doing well.

I often use it as a try before buy idea. Meaning if it's good I will buy it anyway and if not then I save myself some money. Problem with games with no demos means that you can buy/play it and have a bitter taste in your mouth because it ended up being rubbish or wasn't to your tastes!
 
Having read this thread i do find it funny that certain people are so into hating piracy but seem ok when the media and leisure companys break the law in terms of price fixing and suchlike which i believe the US department of justice has both investigated and found to be the case numerous times.

Also having spoken to a friend who is an inspector in the police he assured me that if you were to walk into a police station and admit to copyright theft you would be walking back out with nothing being done about it as that is nothing whatsoever to do with the police.

Biggest reason for piracy is because so much ruibbish has been made in the last decade that people are sick and tired of paying for something to get it home and find it's A, rubbish, B, doesn't work right but they are lumbered with it or C, they paid over the odds for it. Price is important in whether there are higher levels of piracy or lower of course it is.

People only have a certain amount of money to spend on things like games, dvds or music and once that money is gone but there are items they still want usually thanks to fancy ad campaigns they will download it if they can. It isn't a sale lost as the companys would like everyone to believe they didn't have the money left to buy it so couldn't have done.

Having had a bit of a lads get together today i asked all of them if they had pirated stuff and only me and one other have nothing that is pirated on or pc's, console's or in our film collections to be honest i felt like a bit of a freak and also looked stupid having to admit i didn't know how to do it anyway.

People will always pay for quality as long as it's reasonable and they are not limited in personal use of it but they won't keep paying out for the same stuff thats been a little rejigged as a lot of games and music are now or are limited by drm stuff that from what i have been told today seems to only affect the people that buy the damn stuff legit anyway.

I still think my approach is best i wait till it hits the bargain bin by then most if not all problems are sorted i know what i am buying and can be reasonably safe it will work.
 
RizlaKing said:
Having had a bit of a lads get together today i asked all of them if they had pirated stuff and only me and one other have nothing that is pirated on or pc's, console's or in our film collections to be honest i felt like a bit of a freak
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Part of that I think , comes from it being seen somewhat ironically as "wrong" or uncool to be someone who tries their best to do whats "right" or to follow the law. Much more hip to be a rebel, get smashed on drink or drugs and do nefarious activities than being tee-total and a "nice" guy.

Its an odd thing, but I guess thats life today.
 
RizlaKing said:
Having read this thread i do find it funny that certain people are so into hating piracy but seem ok when the media and leisure companys break the law in terms of price fixing and suchlike which i believe the US department of justice has both investigated and found to be the case numerous times.

Also having spoken to a friend who is an inspector in the police he assured me that if you were to walk into a police station and admit to copyright theft you would be walking back out with nothing being done about it as that is nothing whatsoever to do with the police.

Biggest reason for piracy is because so much ruibbish has been made in the last decade that people are sick and tired of paying for something to get it home and find it's A, rubbish, B, doesn't work right but they are lumbered with it or C, they paid over the odds for it. Price is important in whether there are higher levels of piracy or lower of course it is.

People only have a certain amount of money to spend on things like games, dvds or music and once that money is gone but there are items they still want usually thanks to fancy ad campaigns they will download it if they can. It isn't a sale lost as the companys would like everyone to believe they didn't have the money left to buy it so couldn't have done.

Having had a bit of a lads get together today i asked all of them if they had pirated stuff and only me and one other have nothing that is pirated on or pc's, console's or in our film collections to be honest i felt like a bit of a freak and also looked stupid having to admit i didn't know how to do it anyway.

People will always pay for quality as long as it's reasonable and they are not limited in personal use of it but they won't keep paying out for the same stuff thats been a little rejigged as a lot of games and music are now or are limited by drm stuff that from what i have been told today seems to only affect the people that buy the damn stuff legit anyway.

I still think my approach is best i wait till it hits the bargain bin by then most if not all problems are sorted i know what i am buying and can be reasonably safe it will work.
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I agree completely.
The industry has lived off this for years, if nothign else they know they can't get away with shipping out junk or broken games now.
If they price their content fairly or even reasonably, then they will sell.
look at steam deals, people are buying games knowing they are a little bit sucky, but they are worth a few pounds for the limited enjoyment they will get from them.
These buyers are the same ones who would never have originally even considered the titles previously, so it can and does work if they are not so greedy as you say.
 
Tombstone said:
Part of that I think , comes from it being seen somewhat ironically as "wrong" or uncool to be someone who tries their best to do whats "right" or to follow the law. Much more hip to be a rebel, get smashed on drink or drugs and do nefarious activities than being tee-total and a "nice" guy.

Its an odd thing, but I guess thats life today.
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I fail to see how the ability to use a torrent client or the newgroups makes you a rebel. I also fail to see what doing drugs or being drunk has to do with using a torrent website.

I know many people who download from such sources and I also know many who don't. You know what, as people they are all exactly the same, using newsgroups or torrents doesn't make you scum. This isn't aimed at you specifically but if anyone thinks such people are scum then they really need to have a rethink and look at the real scum of the earth who are out there. They might get a shock.
 
Parsley said:
I fail to see how the ability to use a torrent client or the newgroups makes you a rebel. I also fail to see what doing drugs or being drunk has to do with using a torrent website.
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Directly it has nothing to do with using a torrent website...nor did I say that it did. I was merely thinking out loud why someone might say they felt like a freak at being one of the few people in a room who hadnt downloaded something (it being something that many in this thread had already agreed was morally wrong). It was more a comment on why those who dont do things that are "wrong" feel out of place or odd than a direct comment on drugs being linked to torrent websites.

The scum isnt aimed at me, that much is clear from your post. However definitions of scum vary from person to person, for instance myself, I consider anyone who does things which are morally wrong (whatever the thing might be) to be scum. For example, cheating in an online game is not illegal, but in my view is morally wrong, and thus I consider cheaters to be scum. Though that definition varies from one to another, much like the word "idiot" :D
 
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kylew said:
Careful Tefal, he might lay some claims to a pationate bumloving session. :D
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You asked earlier Kyle how I knew that you are quite young just from what you wrote ...

Hopefully you've answered your own question ..

You won't believe me now .. but in about 10 years time you'll look back and actually be embarrassed that you used to write stuff like that ... For the moment however, stick with the fairly naff insults .. after all, you're only young once ..
 
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