Golf vs Focus

TurbotH · 13 Jan 2010 at 23:27

MikeHiow said:
if I went for a Golf, I'd have been buying a car that was a year or two older with twice the mileage, for the same money.

Winner. My thoughts exactly

[TW]Fox · 13 Jan 2010 at 23:39

Who are the idiots paying £12,000 for 3 year old Golfs :confused:

Tute · 13 Jan 2010 at 23:43

I think the Golf would be the better all round car (better handling, more refined), but the Focus is much better value for money.

It really depends what you're going for really. Simple town runaround? Warm/Hot hatch? Something to cover a distance in?

Nobody can really answer the question otherwise.

[TW]Fox · 13 Jan 2010 at 23:46

Since when has a Golf offered better handling than a Focus? Thats always been the main strength of the Focus and the reason it tends to top the class despite lower perceived levels of quality. The Golf is not a great handling car in the cooking models - probably as a result of the fact they've gone more for refinement and quality and less for driving dynamics.

Dangerous Dave · 14 Jan 2010 at 00:07

[TW]Fox;15730546 said:
Who are the idiots paying £12,000 for 3 year old Golfs

Plenty of people do for what every reason.

I am sure you did some sums not long ago and worked out a Golf had very low depreciation from new.

[TW]Fox · 14 Jan 2010 at 00:09

If I suddenly had an urge to spend £12k on a Golf and all that got me was a 3 year old one I'd finance myself up to find the extra £3k for a brand new one :/

Dangerous Dave · 14 Jan 2010 at 00:10

[TW]Fox;15730713 said:
If I suddenly had an urge to spend £12k on a Golf and all that got me was a 3 year old one I'd finance myself up to find the extra £3k for a brand new one :/

So would I but sadly the new MK6 TDI is 18k with discounts online :eek:

MikeHiow · 14 Jan 2010 at 01:06

[TW]Fox;15730546 said:
Who are the idiots paying £12,000 for 3 year old Golfs

Not I! Even 12k is a push unless you're buying private.

Like I say, for £14k, all I could find were 05/06 examples with mileages approaching 60k when looking at five doors.

As for Handling, I'd probably agree that the Golf GTI probably just edges it over the ST and it is only slightly, but the rest of the car is still boring as hell. Standard Focus would probably take it for the "normal" models imo.

Kappa · 14 Jan 2010 at 08:06

They've just raised Golf GTI prices, DSG version £26,000

What are they playing at? Oh and dont worry about it being close to the R version, thats up to £30,000

[TW]Fox · 14 Jan 2010 at 08:11

MikeHiow said:
As for Handling, I'd probably agree that the Golf GTI probably just edges it over the ST and it is only slightly, but the rest of the car is still boring as hell. Standard Focus would probably take it for the "normal" models imo.

I always thought the Focus was the better handling car but the Golf was more rounded after all. This is the first thread in the entire world outside of a VW forum where people have suggested the Golf is actually some sort of handling leader :confused:

4T5 · 14 Jan 2010 at 08:17

This is a hard one for me to answer honestly & without bias as I am a Dub fan. The prob I have is answering how I feel when the new ones seems crap to me.
So...
I'd say if you are buying a late one then go Focus as it's a good car to drive & Excellent value for money.
If you go Retro like me then you Cannot beat an old Dub.

photoshop · 14 Jan 2010 at 08:24

Golf because Ford is ****

ajstan · 14 Jan 2010 at 09:16

Ben-Irvine93 said:
The focus are nice, dont get me wrong but I think they are just too plain. Although, their interior is far superior than the golfs.

What the hell!! Focus interior is shockingly bad! mk1 and mk2, golf is just a little plain.

ajstan · 14 Jan 2010 at 09:17

[TW]Fox;15731467 said:
I always thought the Focus was the better handling car but the Golf was more rounded after all. This is the first thread in the entire world outside of a VW forum where people have suggested the Golf is actually some sort of handling leader

Sorry for double post, just saw this, this is exactly what I thought..

MikeHiow · 14 Jan 2010 at 09:28

[TW]Fox;15731467 said:
I always thought the Focus was the better handling car but the Golf was more rounded after all. This is the first thread in the entire world outside of a VW forum where people have suggested the Golf is actually some sort of handling leader

It may be a different story for the lower models, but I'm certain of my conclusion for the GTI vs ST. But its only very slightly, and its possible that some of it is down to the Golf sporting less power (I've not tested the likes of the ED30).

jamoor · 14 Jan 2010 at 10:03

I can certainly say in the normal cars the Focus outhandles the Golf.

Participant · 14 Jan 2010 at 11:19

No matter how much better the handling, no matter how much better value, and no matter how much more fun to drive the Focus is, I just couldn't live with the Fisher Price interior.

When driving, I spend 99% of my time plodding away at 30-50 mph, not zooming round empty A-roads and tracks. Therefore I want the interior to provide a pleasant ambience and environment for a relaxing journey / commmute, so I care more about the general sense of the interior than slightly improved handling. That's especially true considering how close the Golf GTi is to the Focus ST in handling terms.

Gaygle · 14 Jan 2010 at 11:25

photoshop said:
Golf because Ford is ****

LOLOLOLOL YEH! FIX OR REPAIR DAILY EH!?!?!?!?111

Janesy B · 14 Jan 2010 at 11:33

The difference isn't as big as Robbie G suggests, but yes, the Golf interior is nicer without a doubt.

Gaygle · 14 Jan 2010 at 11:42

Janesy B said:
SNIP

The difference isn't as big as Robbie G suggests, but yes, the Golf interior is nicer without a doubt.

The golf has a nice steering wheel, but the cloth seats in the GTI are :eek:

That particular Focus interior is horrible - but most aren't like that. Also, you've compared the 09 Golf GTI interior to a bog standard Focus interior from, what, 2005?