To those who dislike UK "immigrants"

[Metallifux]

I don't know why people would be proud to be British. British history is stained with blood.

Statements like this are rather annoying. As somebody has already pointed out if it wasn't for the British Empire most of the countries in the commonwealth would still be less than 3rd world backwater bergs fighting with themselves for scraps.

 

[craptakular]

someone got it, lol.

 

[Ceryndrion]

MY only real problem with immigration as a whole, is the ability of this country to support its population, and with pushing 70 million people (twice the population of canada).. I dont think that it can..

 

[Sudden]

Statements like this are rather annoying. As somebody has already pointed out if it wasn't for the British Empire most of the countries in the commonwealth would still be less than 3rd world backwater bergs fighting with themselves for scraps.

And statements like this annoy me. Why is it inconceivable for them to build themselves up and advance without the 'aid' of the British Empire?

I have nothing against what the empire did or anything of the sort because that is what was best for them at that time. But the idea that without them the commonwealth countries would be unable to advance does annoy me. No doubt the British Empire gave the countries some good things, but they also took away a hell of a lot.

 

[Metallifux]

And statements like this annoy me. Why is it inconceivable for them to build themselves up and advance without the 'aid' of the British empire?

I have nothing against what the empire did or anything of the sort because that is what was best for them at that time. But the idea that without them the commonwealth countries would be unable to advance does annoy me. No doubt the British empire gave the countries some good things, but they also took away a hell of a lot.

No question they did but the strong will always take advantage of the weak and that will never change. It happens on a smaller scale these days but it was nice of the US to award all those rebuilding contracts in Iraq to Halliburton. But I must concede I'm sure most countries would have beenfine on their own, I think Zimbabwe is a prime example, don't you?

 

[Mucky_Pup]

The immigration system aswell as the other departments that influence it need great and vast shake up if you ask me. I'm not advocating closing the borders, blocking up the tunnel, and building a sea front wall all the way round the uk, you just have to ask yourself why have we got so many people coming in from abroad to do basic and even vocational jobs, some jobs which could be easily be filled by even the dregs of British society?

We have them, because we have such a screwed up benefits dependant underclass society (i.e. I'm owed everything, by everyone else mentality) that it can work out for them that they'll get such a small increase in what they currently get, or even just break even, so the motivation to actually work to get more than they get from the state is non-existant, so that needs a shake up.

The amount of eastern european tradesmen currently in this country, in my eyes is bordering on obscene, I'm not saying they're easy jobs, you need to have some skill, but it's obscene to me when you can come out of school there isn't a college in the land that can't provide free vocational courses in tradesmen subjects, this needs the government to either give incentives to use British employees or lay the smackdown on them, and tell them they have to use X% of British employee's because it is now law.

I'm not saying don't come here and work, play and be merry, but I just say why is there so many people doing jobs which could easily by British people, if only the goverment would grow a pair of cojones and say "do nothing, get nothing".

We cannot continue to survive on this island if we're just importing x number of people per year to work jobs, and having x^2 number of people capable of doing something, but yet doing nothing because its comfortable.

 

[Yas786]

But not juice.

Roffles

 

[Yas786]

Yet you would be reaping something that in fact you didn't sow, I didn't take part in any of the colonisation in fact I wasn't even thought of so why should I accept the consequence?

No but your ancestors did....Britains colonisation of other countries has meant that now you have those same people you colonised, coming here in their droves.

Also i didnt take part in any terrorist activities ie bombings etc but yet i have to accept the consequence because i happen to share the same faith/religion as they do?.

 

[Sudden]

No question they did but the strong will always take advantage of the weak and that will never change. It happens on a smaller scale these days but it was nice of the US to award all those rebuilding contracts in Iraq to Halliburton.

No doubt about that, and have nothing against that.

But I must concede I'm sure most countries would have beenfine on their own, I think Zimbabwe is a prime example, don't you?

I was actually thinking of India when I posted.

Afraid I don't know enough about the Zimbabwe situation (as in how much of it arose due to independence and what it was like before the empire) to discuss it with you.

 

[buckeejit]

As long as they work, pay taxes and don't nick my TV or try to stab me, its all good.

 

[Metallifux]

I was actually thinking of India when I posted.

Afraid I don't know enough about the Zimbabwe situation (as in how much of it arose due to independence and what it was like before the empire) to discuss it with you.

You will never hear me say a bad word about India. They have fought in more wars for us than enough. However. You can't deny that vast parts of India are still 3rd world, which is unusual for a country that has spent billions on a space program, and warships, but takes financial aid from the UK to build schools.

 

[Deleted User 234324]

After watching crime watch last night it made me wonder.

If we had tighter immigration laws would crime watch be out of business ?

Because to me it seem that nearly all of the wanted were foreigners.

 

[Rich_L]

Yes, before the 1960s or so, there wasn't any crime - it was pretty sweet.

 

[Sudden]

You will never hear me say a bad word about India. They have fought in more wars for us than enough. However. You can't deny that vast parts of India are still 3rd world, which is unusual for a country that has spent billions on a space program, and warships, but takes financial aid from the UK to build schools.

To be honest, that's not something i've ever completely understood. (the space program bit). There are many regions which are very poverty stricken as you said. The government does do a fair bit, but could do a lot more. Corruption is an issue, but then that's the case in any country. Have asked parents a couple of times about it, and they said that to an extent it's about international prestige. When I brought it up with them, what I used was the commonwealth games hosting. I thought it was a bit pointless to spend that much money when it could be used for things more beneficial than some sports. From what I remember, and from what I think now, I would say that the space program has benefits such as encouraging scientists to stay in the country and work towards something. Additionally, raising the international profile would have the effect of attracting companies to come in and invest.

The answer I got to the commonwealth games thing was that it would encourage sports in schools etc. and the buildings/preparation would improve infra-structure.

As for warships, defence is ever needed. Especially given the situation with Pakistan.

 

[D.P.]

There's a difference between immigration and colonization.

So,, what are you against? If Sharia Law did take over, that would be colonization - would you be for that?

 

[D.P.]

For me it's not about the immigration.. it's about the integration and respect.. or lack of it.

Yes, some xenophobic "Indigenous white Britons" lack the ability to help integration and lack respect for people of different cultures.

 

[D.P.]

I dont mind imigrants..

so long as they pay tax'es
have jobs
dont steal
dont give it the whole big i am
have full uk driving licences and insurance
dont try to preach the religion in my face
Learn english, speak english.

unforutnatly i find a large majority dont conform to the above.

Im not racist/sterio typical etc etc , however there are common trends

And I don't mind British nationals who pay taxes, have jobs, don't steal, aren't egotistical, don't enforce religious viewpoints, and speak and write English to an appropriate standard.

The latter point seems to be a common failure of many "Indigenous White Britons". As an example, your post has at least 15 basic English mistakes alone. Most foreigners I know make far less basic mistakes. I suggest before you preach about the language abilities of others, you take some lessons yourself.


I don't care about driving licenses unless they drive.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Yes, some xenophobic "Indigenous white Britons" lack the ability to help integration and lack respect for people of different cultures.

The British are hugely hypocritical when it comes to integration within a foreign culture. The British expats in Spain are a good example of this. I do think integration is important, but how can we expect others to do it if we can't?

 

[LabR@t]

I would be fascinated to see your 8000 year old family trees, you know from back when the UK became separated from Europe.

I mean if you don't have your family history back that far then it stands to reason your ancestors very likely moved here (heck they might have invaded the country).

Now I am proud to be British, but do you guys actually understand what that even means?

Stop being silly.

 

[LabR@t]

Yes, before the 1960s or so, there wasn't any crime - it was pretty sweet.

think you would find less

1. gun crime
2. drug crime
3. people smuggling
4. organised crime

Come on we all know the extent foreign gangs are running the prostitution and drug ring around our big cities.