Why are you constantly saying its an injustice .. you feel its an injustice to you ! I bet nobody else whines about it the way you do they just get on with it and accept that's how the system works and will always work. Oh and by not even contemplating the suggestion to use your phone less your only showing your not willing to help yourself at all.
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Why are you constantly saying its an injustice .. you feel its an injustice to you ! I bet nobody else whines about it the way you do they just get on with it and accept that's how the system works and will always work. Oh and by not even contemplating the suggestion to use your phone less your only showing your not willing to help yourself at all.
No, you're trying to get round it through fraud. If you think the system is unjust, write to your MP. Committing criminal acts is not going to solve anything.
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Try living in Canada. I applied for a student loan but was turned down completely because my parents earned too much so they should be able to easily pay for me to attend. What they refused to take into consideration though is that my parents had disowned me and not only was I not living at home, they wouldn't give me a cent.
Needless to say, I never went to uni.
Needless to say, I never went to uni.
Could you not get yourself legally emancipated from your Parents in this case?
That is how problems such a this are dealt with in the US which has a similar college structure, I think.
It's not fraud or a loophole, because you can't actually do it It's not what the question asks.
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Well I thought I'd ask anyway, seemed like a good idea to me, I aint gonna commit fraud.
Whether you accept it or not the system is broken. If theres a way to legally bend the rules then why not?
If everyone just got on with it and never questioned anything we'd be living in the dark ages. And no politician gives a toss, why bother writing to them, they'll just palm me off with a bunch of useless figures which mean nothing in practise.
Whether you accept it or not the system is broken. If theres a way to legally bend the rules then why not?
If everyone just got on with it and never questioned anything we'd be living in the dark ages. And no politician gives a toss, why bother writing to them, they'll just palm me off with a bunch of useless figures which mean nothing in practise.
Thats just like saying the OUTBLOODYRAGEOUS behaviour of MP's regarding their expenses is acceptable beacuse the rules are/were able to be bent errrrrrrrrrr NOT!
As for believeing people like you "will not commit fraud" I am sorry but I for one dont believe you at all.
Right now, I sincerely hope that you never ever get the opportunity to go to University - EVER - and I really mean that - people with your attitude just dont deserve to go IMHO and no amount of "education" will sort you out either!
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Cry me a river.
Maintenance loans are for rent only, not for living costs as well. If you've got a job and you've got savings, then there's your money for living.
I went to uni with a fair bit of savings after realising my parents couldn't afford to support me (and earnt enough to not be considered for a grant).
Working in the summer will earn you more than enough to live quite comfortably for the entire year if you're sensible with it. Thousands of people do the same, why are you special?
Maintenance loans are for rent only, not for living costs as well. If you've got a job and you've got savings, then there's your money for living.
I went to uni with a fair bit of savings after realising my parents couldn't afford to support me (and earnt enough to not be considered for a grant).
Working in the summer will earn you more than enough to live quite comfortably for the entire year if you're sensible with it. Thousands of people do the same, why are you special?
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People like me were brought up to not break the law. You don't even know me and you assume I'm a criminal?
I asked a legal question, I got the answer, I wanted to give the SLC a kick in the nuts for being such morons but apparently I can't.
Welcome to the world that the rest of us live in
£46k combined income is well above the national average. As for your parents "being skint", can I assume that they own their own house and have access to a car? Not everyone was brought up in this way, with that kind of financial stability - you should count yourself lucky rather than complaining that "poor kids have it best". Do you honestly think that having a few quid extra a month during Uni makes up for the disadvantages of 18 years of upbringing with no money? Going to run-down inner-city schools, getting beaten up every day because your clothes are torn and too small, and having teachers whose primary concern is that all their students leave their classroom free of stab-wounds? Consider the masses of extra work that a less privilaged student has to do in order to end up in the same place as you at age 18.
I don't understand why you believe that you should not need to work during Uni. What precisely is it that makes you special, compared to 95% of other students? Apart from the very wealthy, I don't know anyone who didn't work during Uni (either full time during the summer, part time during the term, or both). Why should you be any different?
I really don't understand the sense of entitlement that is dripping from everything you write. So someone else has a "better deal" in life (from your perspective anyway). Wow. Big surprise there. It's called life. Be thankful for what you have, and move from there.
I think you're going to get a big surprise when you finish Uni and move into the real world, where you have to stand on your own feet rather than waiting for handouts. I suspect your problem is just a lack of perspective. Hopefully that will change one day.
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Isnt that a bit rich when you yourself are judgeing poor kids saying they dont have to work etc when in fact you don't know anything about them or their lifes/backgrounds you persume to know and ok you know of a few people who are like this but can you speak for them all? don't think so.
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Do you really need to screw yourself over with more debt? Ah I get it... I knew it that this country hadnt learnt about debt.
Get over it. Your phone contract is a luxury that you could save on. Silly taking the upgrade when you clearly need to save money.
Oh, you are working 6shifts a week probably, not 6days
earning more means being able to spend more, doesn't mean you have to. Also the rented comment is rubbish
I'll admit I did try a little fraud when it come to applying for my loan. My parents combined income is modest but they are living out of thier means with a morgage on multiple properties and couldn't support me through university.
I said that I was living with my grandparents when applying, they were having none of it. Apparently you have to independent from your parents for 3 years for them to disregard thier income.
I have no problems with holding a part time job during education ( I did it through my later school years and during college) it just wasn't possible in a town where 50% of the population are students and part time job opportunities are few and far apart.
Bonus bagging and drug dealing got me through my first two years, i'm now on a gap year saving up for third year.
I said that I was living with my grandparents when applying, they were having none of it. Apparently you have to independent from your parents for 3 years for them to disregard thier income.
I have no problems with holding a part time job during education ( I did it through my later school years and during college) it just wasn't possible in a town where 50% of the population are students and part time job opportunities are few and far apart.
Bonus bagging and drug dealing got me through my first two years, i'm now on a gap year saving up for third year.
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Well maybe things have changed now but my parents earnt below 30K combined in 2003 and i got £3,700 per year at uni, £1100 on course fees and £2500 on accomodation, nothing like £100 a week spare after buying stationary and paying mobile bill. (needed to contact course mates etc lol)
Ethical yes, legal no.
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Are you not the guy who admitted to stealing from his work experience employer?
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he is IIRC. OP is a general fool which is why everyone is being so harsh in here, even though they know the student loan system is rubbish just like the EMA one.
OP you will have no chance cheating the system just like many of us have said. you can try but when you get caught you might not get any finance help whatsoever... at the very least there will be a huge delay on it. like i said originally you can live wherever you want but they still go off your parents household income rather than you own. even if theyre at the other side of the world youd struggle to get the SLC to listen
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Man up Whine arse. 
I came from a single low income family eg below 14k and when i went to uni i was welcome for the maximum i could get off the SLC.
Didnt work 1st year just lived off my loan
I worked 20 hours a week on my SU bar for 2nd year and took my loan.
My 3rd and 4th year i didnt take out any student loan just took the uni fees but i worked fulltime instead, 38 hours a week.
So no poor kids dont get it all free.
Im sorry but your a whiney little gimp, get a job.
Your parents can VERY easily afford it, so tell them to get their hands in their over stuffed pockets.
If i knew you and you did this i would grass you to the SLC every time in a flash
I came from a single low income family eg below 14k and when i went to uni i was welcome for the maximum i could get off the SLC.
Didnt work 1st year just lived off my loan
I worked 20 hours a week on my SU bar for 2nd year and took my loan.
My 3rd and 4th year i didnt take out any student loan just took the uni fees but i worked fulltime instead, 38 hours a week.
So no poor kids dont get it all free.
Im sorry but your a whiney little gimp, get a job.
Your parents can VERY easily afford it, so tell them to get their hands in their over stuffed pockets.
If i knew you and you did this i would grass you to the SLC every time in a flash
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