Ubisoft's New DRM Cracked In Under 25-Hours

britboy4321 said:
It's impossible to justify theft/stealing even using such watertight arguments as 'It isn't an awesome good therefore I can steal it' or 'They had Ts and Cs I didn't like so stealing their product is fine'. !
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Piracy is not theft/stealing.

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Just because some idiots who call themselves ''Digital Britain'' say so doesn't make it so by law, not in the UK, and definitely not here in the NL or even in the US with their silly copyright laws:

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interference with copyright does not easily equate with theft, conversion, or fraud. The Copyright Act even employs a separate term of art to define one who misappropriates a copyright: ... 'an infringer of the copyright.' ...
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Ubisoft are now saying that the claims Silent Hunter 5 has been cracked are untrue.



Posted to a complaint thread on the game's official message boards by an Ubisoft forum manager, Ubisoft's official statement on the matter reads as follows:

"You have probably seen rumors on the web that Assassin's Creed II and Silent Hunter 5 have been cracked... Please know that this rumor is false and while a pirated version may seem to be complete at start up, any gamer who downloads and plays a cracked version will find that their version is not complete."


I wont be buying this game as things stand.
 
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I brought assassins creed 2 as i had been waiting ages for it, the game is good and the graphics are amazing but every so often my net apprently goes out however my laptop seems to work fine in the mean time?
Also it doesnt seem to work properly with the wireless 360 controller using a crossfire adapter (triggers dont work, buttons were screwed up)
I was going to get the new splinter cell but i am not putting up with this crap anymore, instead im going to get the prison break game
 
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Emlyn_Dewar said:
What I am picking up, the general mood is:
This DRM is utter BS, any DRM that punishes the legitimate customer is stupid, piracy is a problem, Ubisoft are rubbish anyway.
I'm not seeing a large volume of people saying that piracy is good.

Make a **** DRM system, people are going to laugh and see it as a positive thing when it's ruined. :)
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pretty much.

Make DRM system with perks (ie steam) and people are fine with it. but yes it;s still cracked within days.

Make a system with perks badly like GFWL and people will hate you even more and it;s cracked in a day too./
 
Briton said:
Ubisoft are now saying that the claims Silent Hunter 5 has been cracked are untrue.



Posted to a complaint thread on the game's official message boards by an Ubisoft forum manager, Ubisoft's official statement on the matter reads as follows:

"You have probably seen rumors on the web that Assassin's Creed II and Silent Hunter 5 have been cracked... Please know that this rumor is false and while a pirated version may seem to be complete at start up, any gamer who downloads and plays a cracked version will find that their version is not complete."


I wont be buying this game as things stand.
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They are lying ^_^
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
What I am picking up, the general mood is:
This DRM is utter BS, any DRM that punishes the legitimate customer is stupid, piracy is a problem, Ubisoft are rubbish anyway.
I'm not seeing a large volume of people saying that piracy is good.

Make a **** DRM system, people are going to laugh and see it as a positive thing when it's ruined. :)
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That's not quite how I see it. I have, after all, proposed making DRM illegal and addressing copyright infringement by another route, but it seems that what a significant number of people want is no DRM and no other avenue of enforcement for copyright.
 
There's no problem with DRM as a concept, the problem is how it's implemented. The way it was being implemented by Ubisoft simply punished the paying customer, while the people who download a pirated copy don't have to put up with it. Instead of discouraging piracy as was their aim, they will actually have convinced many people who would otherwise have paid for the game, to download a free copy instead. It was completely counter-productive.

The sooner game publishers realise they're fighting a losing battle, the better for everyone. Maybe then, we won't have to put up with this ********.
 
Dolph said:
That's not quite how I see it. I have, after all, proposed making DRM illegal and addressing copyright infringement by another route, but it seems that what a significant number of people want is no DRM and no other avenue of enforcement for copyright.
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but CD keys work quite well and i've yet to see anyone complain about them...atleast in mp they do.
 
Dolph said:
That's not quite how I see it. I have, after all, proposed making DRM illegal and addressing copyright infringement by another route, but it seems that what a significant number of people want is no DRM and no other avenue of enforcement for copyright.
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So with copyright infringement a criminal offence, would being linked to a youtube video containing a copyrighted sound track or video content land you in court once the publisher had complained to google and gotten a list of all IPs/accounts that watched the video?

Copyright infringement is so common that making it criminal would see half of the country in court.
 
snowdog said:
Of course not, they're idiots. Not that ubi have brought out a PC game really worth playing in the past years (imo).


Me too, but I don't agree with the relation bigjimmyauk draws between piracy and not buying... Someone downloading a game does not me he/she won't buy it, and the way I see it someone downloading a game barely ever means a lost sale, if someone really wants a game he'll buy it anyhow and I think some downloaders never had the intention to buy anything... He instantly assumes all pirates aren't willing to pay for games:confused:. He also assumes that people who use cracks are always pirates, get this jimmy, I always crack ALL my retail legit games, can't be arsed with some ****ty DRM crap, and many others feel the same. Using a crack does not equal not buying the game. Downloading a game doesn't mean it won't be bought. And most importantly, downloads do not equal lost sales.

Ok, there may be some people who indeed, download the game, and if they couldn't download it they would buy it. I believe this is a small minority, outnumbered by 2 other groups:
Downloaders who will never buy a game.
''Try before Buying'' Pirates. ( or even pirates who pre-ordered a game, but the game leaked out earlier, and they download it so they can play it sooner, I tried this with GTA IV as I really couldn't wait en extra day for the game to arrive.)

And to repeat once more, using cracks and pirates are 2 entirely different things.
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I don't think you quite get it do you.
If say i downloaded assassins creed 2 from a file sharing place or a friend copied his disc i wouldn't be able to use it cause of the DRM and activation.
These numptys cracked the DRM which now means people can go nilly willy downloading illegal copies and putting the DRM crack on so the servers think it's a legit copy.

If people didn't do this in the first place there wouldn't be such harsh DRM's like we have today. If you all want no drm's or better DRM's then people have to stop making it easier for the pirates to dish out copies or put them up for download. Hlaf the people that sell illegal game copies or put them for download do not have the knowledge to crack games and people doing it for them makes it easier i can understand a group doing it for the good of the community but that group has to understand what they are doing to the pc gaming industry.

Personally i hope the peeps that cracked UBI's DRM get found and sent down. As they obviously don't have much of a brain between them in regards to what they do to the industry yeah they might be great at what they do but they are pretty stupid thinking in the long run of things.

It will be impossible to fully stop piracy but we gotta stop these people that make the pirates job easier.

Example there was this guy that used to come to our work selling illegal copies of DVD's this guy didn't have a clue he just downloaded a program that allowed him such an easy way of creating a rip, If that program wasn't available in the first place he'd have still been sitting at home or going to work instead.

Needless to say he got his cummupance when he got caught carrying a rucksack full of illegal rips and screeners when one of our staff shopped him
 
bigjimmyauk said:
These numptys cracked the DRM which now means people can go nilly willy downloading illegal copies and putting the DRM crack on so the servers think it's a legit copy.
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actually it just stops it communicating with the server at all. (and removes it's need to)


Also because of these "numptys" people who bought the game can now use it off-line.


Remember it is your right to be able to make an electronic back up of any software you by, sadly the law says you can't disable copy protection to do this due to the crappy way the law was never updated to deal with the digital age.
 
Quite simply i wouldn't give them money for a game that required me to be online to play unless it was an FPS, MMO etc. Games keep me amused on the laptop when i'm away from home for work, bugger being forced to shell out extra for mobile bandwidth. If i wanted a game that i had to continually pay for i'd just buy WoW.
 
snowdog said:
It is the publishers fault and the competition from consoles. Don't need any persuasion. I've bought more games since I could pirate than I ever did before, same with music... These days most games are so appalling they're not even worth downloading ( waste of bandwidth and hdd space), let alone buying. I know for a fact the industry would be more harmed, if I wouldn't have ever downloaded a thing.
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I've got to admit, I was never swayed by the argument that people would buy the games even if they downloaded them for free, till I tried it.
I've saved a lot of money by downloading games, not because I've kept them and played them and avoided paying, but because I've downloaded them, played them for long enough to decide whether I like it or not, then making a decision to buy it.
I've avoided forking out for some right rubbish by being able to properly try it first.
 
britboy4321 said:
The way the world is supposed to work is someone puts something up for sale with whatever conditions they want.

Then the customer thinks either 'I accept I'll have it' or 'I don't accept I won't have it'

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If you want to try before hand and they don't let you .. you're back to EXACTLY THE SAME CHOICE .. 'Buy it, or do not buy it'. IT'S THE SAME FOR ALL GOODS ON THE MARKET, you are not being hard done buy with regards to comp games. It's the same with Kelloggs cornflakes. !
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There are no restrictions imposed on me by either of those companies after buying their products.
You post was made of an almost biblical amount of fail.


For instance, If I buy a BMW 645i, after I give BMW the money for it, I can do what ever the **** i like with it within the law of the country I use it in, I can take it on an off road track, I can blow it up, I can paint it pink, I can stick Skoda badges on it and fill it full of cornflakes, and there is nothing either company can do about it.

But If I want to buy a game from Ubisoft, I can only do what they tell me with it?
**** you Ubisoft.
 
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Like with Windows you don't own the software you pay to license it from Microsoft and agree to their terms via a EULA which no doubt everyone reads ? ;)

If you owned any software you'd be given the source code and all intellectual rights to it.

Think thats correct ?
 
duc999 said:
Like with Windows you don't own the software you pay to license it from Microsoft and agree to their terms via a EULA which no doubt everyone reads ? ;)

If you owned any software you'd be given the source code and all intellectual rights to it.

Think thats correct ?
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I own the disc and what ever is on it, If I choose to put it on my machine, reverse engineer it and make the software do nothing but show pictures of different types of cheese every 30 seconds and nothing else, thats up to me.

What people have trouble with understanding is this, If I've bought it, its mine to do what I want with, providing I dont try to pass it off as my own, use it maliciously, or try to profit from it.
 
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