Are robots starting to lay our bricks?
Does this sound steep??
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Are robots starting to lay our bricks?
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Because some people want to do jobs that require a brain, regardless of the money!
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not quite but wet trades are now kept to an absoloute minimum
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No but the trade is drying up and becoming overcrowded.
Plus theres sod all money in bricklaying anymore.
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I went to Uni, and I earn a lot more than £7.95 an hour. I also earn a lot more than my friends who are sparkies, joiners and plumbers. Therefore I deduce that getting a trade is, in fact, worthless.
See, we can all make ridiculous sweeping generalisations which have little basis in reality.
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Well yeah. I know quite a few tradesmen and trust me, it's not like it used to be.
Whether it's a bunch of polish blokes working for a pittance stealing your customer or the recession putting people off building. Theres significantly less work for anyone in the building trade.
You need a certain amount of brickys, chippys, sparkys. But it's all proportional to the amount of work that is about, if theres less work then the industry becomes overcrowded and a lot more competitive, this means you are forced to take jobs for less money, that is if you can get them.
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Isn't the going rate for a software engineer around 30K in the south east at 2 years post grad, not much better off than a teacher really who would work less hours for 25K in the north west, Plumbers can earn easily 50K self employed in london with a few years experience, fair enough they will have invested a lot of money on kit but then not have spent money on education and have student loans etc.
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A teacher will work many more hours unpaid, lesson planning, marking is a big one, seeing students on lunch breaks etc. No teacher works to rule because they can't.
A software engineer also has the potential to earn more than 30k as they gain experience.
Plumbers that earn 50k will be self employed with people working for them, probably doing 24hr callouts as well. Even then you'd have to be lucky enough to get enough business. It takes a long time to build up your business to that level.
Teachers have the potential to earn £100,000+ as they rise up the pay scale, and that is in comprehensive schools, public school wages are potentially a lot higher.
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I know that, my point was school teachers do work a lot of hours off the clock.
Well the 10min £70 job is leaking again
Im gonna ring him and get him out asap, make the arse work for his money..
A few months ago our washing machine belt snapped, and the guy we got out to fix it, charged £50, and the job was 3-4times harder to fix...
At the end of the day I dont mind paying however much they ask, if they have earn't it, as the washing machine guy had... At the end of the day we all have to make a living I know, but dont rip ppl off in the process, and the plumber guy was a friend, and we said to him,, there's no rush,, do the job when your passing.. But now no mr nice guy
Im gonna ring him and get him out asap, make the arse work for his money..A few months ago our washing machine belt snapped, and the guy we got out to fix it, charged £50, and the job was 3-4times harder to fix...
At the end of the day I dont mind paying however much they ask, if they have earn't it, as the washing machine guy had... At the end of the day we all have to make a living I know, but dont rip ppl off in the process, and the plumber guy was a friend, and we said to him,, there's no rush,, do the job when your passing..
But now no mr nice guy
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I dont think it sounds steep. He's been there a few times. A lot of plumbers would have charged more than £70. you kind of called him out twice. once for the leak and once for the stop tap so £70 is more than reasonable.
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My neighbour has a plumber over right now just to snake out his tub. $125 (£80) just to come out. You have a bargain as said.
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Our plumber is awesome. Pretty much any job you get him round to do, if it takes any time, is £60. He also works with a registered electrician, so fitting electric shower = £60.
Removing outdoor tap and moving it into the garage? £60.
Unclogging outdoors drain and replumbing the washing machine? £60'll do.
Dishwasher then started acting up? Sorted for free.
Removing outdoor tap and moving it into the garage? £60.
Unclogging outdoors drain and replumbing the washing machine? £60'll do.
Dishwasher then started acting up? Sorted for free.
No no no,, We said he can do the job when he's passing in has own time, so their wouldn't be no travelling expense. So the first time he came was just over a week after we ask him, and he did a temp fix, while he got the part. Then a week later he came back todo the job, and it would have been a 10min job if he got the right part in the first place, but thats not my fault is it?