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Yes, and that does what for us exactly?

Something to cry about?

It's not so much what it does for us, but as former members of the empire we have somewhat of a common ground between all countries. It's a bit of a wish washy organisation but it's values are honourable and it is tasked to promote human rights and world peace. Having our Queen as head of a 54 country commonwealth with honest and commendable aims is something to be proud of.
 
Exactly, so put it in black and white and its nothing more than an ex-empire social club.

I can really see the value in that.

You don't see the value in a group of countries with a common bond promoting Human Rights, free trade and world peace? Ok.

I've remembered the Queen's 2009 message focused a bit on the commonwealth :)


Citizen's in that video from the likes of Singapore and Malaysia seem very proud and happy with the Commonwealth
 
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Rip Scotland out of the UK/England, then its your problem.

We will be sitting trying to figure out how to make up the billions ;)

Nah, that'll be beneficial for the UK, scotland is a net recipient of taxpayer funds. Especially when we take all our military and civil service positions out of Scotland and put them into England and Wales :)

Sounds like a great idea, I'm all for it :D
 
You don't see the value in a group of countries with a common bond promoting Human Rights, free trade and world peace? Ok.

I've remembered the Queen's 2009 message focused a bit on the commonwealth :)


Citizen's in that video from the likes of Singapore and Malaysia seem very proud and happy with the Commonwealth

It certainly does no harm!!

But, it wouldn't cease to exist if the Royal Family were no longer the Monarchy of this country.
 
Nah, that'll be beneficial for the UK, scotland is a net recipient of taxpayer funds. Especially when we take all our military and civil service positions out of Scotland and put them into England and Wales :)

Sounds like a great idea, I'm all for it :D

God, it feels like only yesterday Dolph... ;)

When did we stop arguing about this? I'm going to dig up some old threads :D I can remember my argument sharpening considerably with wading in against you :)
 
I don't see who would head it though, perhaps President Brown *shudder*.

It doesn't have to be royality though, its the only example we have had so far.

Very very unlikely but what if the next monarch didn't want it?

I'm sure the group would come to a legitimate conclusion for picking a successor.

Do you think any of this is helping the lads homework?

I also hope to god that Brown is no where to be seen politically shortly.
 
The royal family has had it's problems, the Queen comes from a generation when protocol and a hard exterior was the sign of a good monarch, I don't hold it against her as she was broght up that way and it's hard to change who you are and I think she's an amazingly strong woman. Prince Philip is just great, not enough people in public roles speak their mind like he does without consulting spin doctors or PR advisers, fair play to him. Charles is as mad as a box of frogs. William and Harry the future of the royal family and I think it's in good hands, anyone who keeps their deployment secret for as long as possible to serve with his men and was angry when it was comprimised is alright in my books, they both seem strong leaders but know how to show compassion and feeling.

The institution of the monarchy is more important than the flesh and blood that holds it. It's a part of our history and the soul of the country, too many people think in terms of what it brings or costs us in material things, to me it's the things that we can't touch or sell that makes the monarchy important and makes me proud to say I'm one of the lucky few who can call themselves British.
 
I can't understand the people running the "stealing their property" line - exactly what entitled them to all this property? Every new royal family that has come through has gained their position by waging war, butchering the previous royal family and nicking their stuff!!

And as for the line on American elites - the difference between the Rockefellers and the Windsors is that the former actually worked to make their billions. The latter just tax it off the public.
 
The thing I dislike about the royal family is the fact they act as a link between the state and the army, and the church when no such link should exist. That among other things.
 
The thing I dislike about the royal family is the fact they act as a link between the state and the army, and the church when no such link should exist. That among other things.
You might want to check that. I'll give you a hint: Bill of Rights of 1689.
 
Scotland has no official monarchy and as such Scotland can not have a British monarchy. Without Scotland there is no Britain. All European royalty are inbreds anyway. So often the royal family is referenced as the English royal family. England can keep Prince Philip and his racist/homophibic/sexist views thank you very much. But the English will blame that on him being German. :rolleyes:
 
You might want to check that. I'll give you a hint: Bill of Rights of 1689.
I must be dumber than I look, could you give me a hand? I don't get how the Bill of Rights has anything to do with the fact that the Queen is head of the state, the army and the church.
 
Scotland has no official monarchy and as such Scotland can not have a British monarchy. Without Scotland there is no Britain. All European royalty are inbreds anyway. So often the royal family is referenced as the English royal family. England can keep Prince Philip and his racist/homophibic/sexist views thank you very much. But the English will blame that on him being German. :rolleyes:
Or Greek even :rolleyes:
 
I can't understand the people running the "stealing their property" line - exactly what entitled them to all this property? Every new royal family that has come through has gained their position by waging war, butchering the previous royal family and nicking their stuff!!

And as for the line on American elites - the difference between the Rockefellers and the Windsors is that the former actually worked to make their billions. The latter just tax it off the public.

Go read some British history. Seriously, your post is so full of false information it's ridiculous.
 
I must be dumber than I look, could you give me a hand? I don't get how the Bill of Rights has anything to do with the fact that the Queen is head of the state, the army and the church.
The British Army is the Army of Parliament, with the exception of a few regiments. This is an important distinction, historically. She is the 'head' of some regiments by historical tradition - which has no bearing on anything at all. They certainly are not a 'link'.

Now it is all moot as all branches of the armed forces answer directly to the tri-service Defence Council and the MoD. The MoD in turn answers to the cabinet and the PM. Note no mention of a Sovereign here.
 
Scotland has no official monarchy and as such Scotland can not have a British monarchy. Without Scotland there is no Britain. All European royalty are inbreds anyway. So often the royal family is referenced as the English royal family.
Are you on crack?

Scotland do have a monarch, under the Act of Union 1707. If you doubt this, ask yourself why HRH appointed the First Minister of Scotland and nomination of the Scottish Parliament. Doesn't get more official than a 300yr old law.
 
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