PC gaming expense ?
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Your bmw ecu ?
SO HE HAS A BETTER CAR THAN YOU.
GET OVER IT
It really is sad seeing you bring up the fact he drives a BMW whenever you possibly can.
Your bmw ecu ?
If you're sick of the cyber bullying then stop baiting yourself, two wrongs don't make a right.
Crysis can be run on high settings with a £300 PC, you don't need to be even close to £700 for BC2.
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£1.5k??
I have built 2 sub £250 rigs that play just cause 2 and metro 2033 on high settings useing 1680x1050 res...
You dont need to spend ANYWHERE that sort of money
I have built 2 sub £250 rigs that play just cause 2 and metro 2033 on high settings useing 1680x1050 res...
You dont need to spend ANYWHERE that sort of money
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Rubbish, utter rubbish.
I buy a computer for everything I do, a £70 mobo, a £80 555BE, 4gigs memory, Windows 7, etc, its got intergrated graphics, it does everything anyone needs a computer to do, and a lot more, except gaming.
I bought a £193 5850, it now does gaming at a resolution with almost twice the pixels at 10 times the speed of an Xbox, it looks better, plays better, is better and it cost me LESS than a Xbox.
Because I'd have the computer if I didn't play games at all, I would not have a £200 gpu, NOR a £200 Xbox 360. Therefore the cost is the same, except for a card with more features and better performance than a 360 will ever have.
I get more enjoyment out of my games because they look better, run smoother and have a better control method, they load MASSIVELY faster and because 360's are so incredibly, painfully loud, my computer is a heck of a lot quieter aswell.
Then you're ignoring a pretty simple and obvious answer, buy 10 games, even the same 10 games on both formats, and your supposedly "cheap" 360, due to cost of console games over PC games, costs twice as much to buy the games, which ends up being the same price as the 360 or gpu in savings on the games.
Every year or two, you save a further £100-200 getting the same games cheaper on the PC than the 360.
£1.5k is a bit extreme just to have a PC that plays games. I would say about £700 is right when you add everything up like windows, case, PSU, DVD drive, mouse + keyboard. I actually think that current graphics cards are very overpriced when compared performance-wise with 12 month old cards that cost half as much new.
I hate that opinion. Console games cost about £37 on release and quickly drop to much lower prices. I think you would be hard pushed to come up with a 2009 game that can't be found for £<20. I've even seen MW2 for £19.99. If you look on the auction site and list PS3 games, buy it now, newly listed, you will see the amount of cheap, highly rated games that can be had for next to nothing and that's just one place. There are loads of sites/supermarkets selling cheap console games. And don't forget, once you buy a console game, it remains a 100% sellable item.
I have a PC and a PS3 and and I love both. The PS3, I just buy a game and play it. If the thing is switched on for an hour, I play an hour of a game. It took me by surprise that one. With the PC, I use it a bit different. I've just finished Far Cry (1) and loved every minute of it. I'll re-play HL2 soon which is my favourite game of all time. I wouldn't bother with the console versions, it's a PC game.
The problem with modern games is that they are made with consoles in mind because that's where the money is. The PC version is often an afterthought that runs OK/good on a PC because it has much better hardware but the game isn't designed for PC.
The main problem is: There are no mainstream PC-only games anymore. Crysis was the last one and look at Crysis 2, It's a console game. Yes the PC version will look better but at how much better and at what cost? even a game such as GTA4:episodes. I have the PS3 version and I'm enjoying it. I've visited the the PC thread a few times (and posted in it). All people talk about is getting the game to run something near acceptable. OK that's not a great example but I chose the PS3 version because I know what I know.
PC gaming hasn't got any smaller, it's just that console gaming has got much bigger
I would like to buy a new graphics card at some point but I don't value them the same these days as all I will get from it, is trying to get modern console ports to run well. Games that any any gamer can just buy and play.
Give me Half-Life 3 or a true Far Cry PC sequel with huge graphics card demands for an amazing looking game and I will be there but sadly, those days have gone.
The old mouse + keyboard chestnut: Yes I think M+KB is loads better for FPS games, I really do, but I don't get an extra £500 of enjoyment from it, so I don't really think about that one much.
One of the main reasons I like my PC in current times is that I can play most 'Xbox only' games such as left4dead and mass effect etc. In fact, it's gone full circle in that all the currect PC games that I'm interested in can be played on a console but there are many current, important games that are PS3 only.
I hate that opinion. Console games cost about £37 on release and quickly drop to much lower prices. I think you would be hard pushed to come up with a 2009 game that can't be found for £<20. I've even seen MW2 for £19.99. If you look on the auction site and list PS3 games, buy it now, newly listed, you will see the amount of cheap, highly rated games that can be had for next to nothing and that's just one place. There are loads of sites/supermarkets selling cheap console games. And don't forget, once you buy a console game, it remains a 100% sellable item.
I have a PC and a PS3 and and I love both. The PS3, I just buy a game and play it. If the thing is switched on for an hour, I play an hour of a game. It took me by surprise that one. With the PC, I use it a bit different. I've just finished Far Cry (1) and loved every minute of it. I'll re-play HL2 soon which is my favourite game of all time. I wouldn't bother with the console versions, it's a PC game.
The problem with modern games is that they are made with consoles in mind because that's where the money is. The PC version is often an afterthought that runs OK/good on a PC because it has much better hardware but the game isn't designed for PC.
The main problem is: There are no mainstream PC-only games anymore. Crysis was the last one and look at Crysis 2, It's a console game. Yes the PC version will look better but at how much better and at what cost? even a game such as GTA4:episodes. I have the PS3 version and I'm enjoying it. I've visited the the PC thread a few times (and posted in it). All people talk about is getting the game to run something near acceptable. OK that's not a great example but I chose the PS3 version because I know what I know.
PC gaming hasn't got any smaller, it's just that console gaming has got much bigger
I would like to buy a new graphics card at some point but I don't value them the same these days as all I will get from it, is trying to get modern console ports to run well. Games that any any gamer can just buy and play.
Give me Half-Life 3 or a true Far Cry PC sequel with huge graphics card demands for an amazing looking game and I will be there but sadly, those days have gone.
The old mouse + keyboard chestnut: Yes I think M+KB is loads better for FPS games, I really do, but I don't get an extra £500 of enjoyment from it, so I don't really think about that one much.
One of the main reasons I like my PC in current times is that I can play most 'Xbox only' games such as left4dead and mass effect etc. In fact, it's gone full circle in that all the currect PC games that I'm interested in can be played on a console but there are many current, important games that are PS3 only.
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The vast majority of households have a PC anyway. The only thing stopping you from making a random PC (in most cases) a match for a console is the graphics card, and that does not cost £500. You can get a good graphics card (I bought a HD4870 January last year for <£150) for less than a console.
The price comparison for PC vs. consoles never takes this into account for some reason - just like the anti-console crowd always forget a decently sized TV is usually found in most households and so shouldn't be counted as the "price to pay to play xbox" :/
Having been out of pc gaming for a few years i bought my current pc off my friend, that was about two years ago. I payed him £300 for it, monitor included, and then invested in a HD4870, so overall it cost me about £400.
It still handles more or less all the games i throw at it with settings cranked up and my highest resolution (1680x1050) , albeit the select few which need to be tinkered with.
I compare that to when i first got my 360 a few years ago, it was £260 with two games, i've had three years on live so thats £120, plus i had to buy the stupid wireless adapter for it, that was £60 as well. I've had about fifteen games, all priced between £20-£40.
I tend to only play the pc these days, i haven't actually touched the 360 for a few a few months now, simply because i can buy the games i want on the pc for cheaper, they look better, i prefer the control in most cases, online is free and you have access to mods and user made content for most of your games.
It still handles more or less all the games i throw at it with settings cranked up and my highest resolution (1680x1050) , albeit the select few which need to be tinkered with.
I compare that to when i first got my 360 a few years ago, it was £260 with two games, i've had three years on live so thats £120, plus i had to buy the stupid wireless adapter for it, that was £60 as well. I've had about fifteen games, all priced between £20-£40.
I tend to only play the pc these days, i haven't actually touched the 360 for a few a few months now, simply because i can buy the games i want on the pc for cheaper, they look better, i prefer the control in most cases, online is free and you have access to mods and user made content for most of your games.
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The tv cost is always forgotten as has been mentioned before.
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I have BC2 on PC and PS3 and the differance is massive, options are slashed you basically get stuck in any old server and driving vehicle is 10 times harder using 3 different controls to move and look and another to fire main weapon how you fire the alt weapon I have no idea . The max res is 720p which looks crap on 1080p compared to 1920 x 1200 on my P.C. £750 should get you a P.C that will play games at max settings these days.
Don't get me wrong I still love my PS3 but for me the flexibility to play Total War, Company of Heroes etc, download stuff (legally obviously) and the price differance of games and use all the other applications mean I will continue to use both.
. The max res is 720p which looks crap on 1080p compared to 1920 x 1200 on my P.C. £750 should get you a P.C that will play games at max settings these days.Don't get me wrong I still love my PS3 but for me the flexibility to play Total War, Company of Heroes etc, download stuff (legally obviously) and the price differance of games and use all the other applications mean I will continue to use both.
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£1500 is a small price to pay when you consider you dont have to use a console.
So true!
Here is a fun exercise:
I'm looking at the possibility of going back to PC gaming, and selling up my PS3/360 to fund a PC build.
Sepc me a PC that will run BC2/MW2/GTA4 etc at silly detail, don't need a monitor/keyboard/mouse as I have these already.
This should be interesting.
I'm looking at the possibility of going back to PC gaming, and selling up my PS3/360 to fund a PC build.
Sepc me a PC that will run BC2/MW2/GTA4 etc at silly detail, don't need a monitor/keyboard/mouse as I have these already.
This should be interesting.
What do you have in your current PC? You might only need to buy a graphic card.