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What a shyster.
Poll: *** 2010 General Election Result & Discussion ***
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I'm begining to think a Lab-Lib outcome couldn't be too bad.... Let them get in, make a few savage cuts and become unpopular. The Conservatives will only be subject to the sort of "Same old tories" bile if they come in now. Let lib-lab mess up, have another election in a year and a tory landslide 
He didn't say its because hes lost, its more due to the fact of the hung parliament situation even existed. If it was changed before the election, the conservative would have won outright simply due to having over 1 million more votes.
but half the country hate cameron too. what a mess
is he ill?
Like any die hard Labourite, you refuse to listen. Your analogies are stupid and void.Anecdotal as he gave 1 example and cited it as proof. Do you know what anecdotal evidence is? Let me explain ..
'Last night I saw a man down the pub getting punched THEREFORE it is a rough pub' = anecdotal evidence.
'People drive too fast as last night a BMW passed me at 103mph' =anecdotal evidence.
'Australia runs PR and does perfectly fine therefore PR is fine' = anecdotal evidence.
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Then you say I do not know what I am on about? You should have GOOGLED 'anecdotal' first .. especially if you're gonna try and call someone on something you don't know ..
The evidence provided was that Australia has used PR for 100 years and had one hung parliament in that time. That is not anecdotal evidence, that is fact. Why? Because it is not based on hearsay but on proof, my grasp of English is evidently better then yours.
Quite why I'm wasting time with your trolling I'm not sure, but if you want the facts, here they are.
Since PR was introduced in 1919 (compulsory voting 1924), Australia has had no hung parliaments in its House of Representatives.
The Germans have used PR since 1949, and not had one single hung parliament.
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Does anyone honestly think that any of this is for the good of the country, or the good of the people, and not simply what's best for their party?
This is politics! It's all a big grab for power with as little thought given to the people who elect them as humanly possible.
I'm begining to think a Lab-Lib outcome couldn't be too bad.... Let them get in, make a few savage cuts and become unpopular. The Conservatives will only be subject to the sort of "Same old tories" bile if they come in now. Let lib-lab mess up, have another election in a year and a tory landslide
Thank you!! This is what i want to happen!
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But less than Brown
I'm begining to think a Lab-Lib outcome couldn't be too bad.... Let them get in, make a few savage cuts and become unpopular. The Conservatives will only be subject to the sort of "Same old tories" bile if they come in now. Let lib-lab mess up, have another election in a year and a tory landslide
Knowing this country (and the morons in Wales/Scotland) if that happened, Labour would probably be credited with leading us to a successful recovery and being the most financially responsible party in existance.
That's how things tend to go.
The endless Thatcher grudge will continue.
hey, are you red trollist?
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Anecdotal evidence IS over-conclusion formed by fact!! Just read about it! Just google 'anecdotal evidence' if you don't believe me!!! We're going round in circles here.
'I saw someone getting punched down the pub'
That is a fact
'Therefore it is a rough pub'
THAT is using anecdotal evidence. The fact someone got punched is NOT BEING DISPUTED.
'PR works somewhat in Australia'
That is a fact
'Therefore it's a groovy form of government for the UK / anywhere else/ DOESN'T cause a load more hung parliaments'
That is using anecdotal evidence. The fact PR somewhat works in Australia IS NOT BEING DISPUTED.
If I find a SINGLE COUNTRY in which PR was a disaster of hung parliaments, then say 'Therefore this proves the whole system sucks for the entire world' -- THAT is using ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE! Geddit? Please say yes!
Jeesh!
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Read your link.
When they bold Liberal and National in the same year, they form a coalition government. basically no party gets an overall majority, which by our election's definition is a hung parliament.
38th-41st were all hung "parliaments" (yes its not actually a parliament there).
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WTF? BROWN'S A BAD LOSER.
Brown's just squatting now at No.10. The Police will have to go in and turf him out!
David Cameron will need to buy new towels and light bulbs after Brown leaves.
Long live democracy. It's going to be harder to sell to countries like Afghanistan after this fiasco.
I wonder if that invitation to Gillian Duffy to visit Gordon and Sarah is still open?
Brown's just squatting now at No.10. The Police will have to go in and turf him out!
David Cameron will need to buy new towels and light bulbs after Brown leaves.
Long live democracy. It's going to be harder to sell to countries like Afghanistan after this fiasco.
I wonder if that invitation to Gillian Duffy to visit Gordon and Sarah is still open?
Oh I agree, that's how they will try and spin it. Lab-Lib will go 1 of 2 ways; they'll either do the right thing which means savage cuts and tax rises which will be deeply unpopular. Or they'll maintain the current Labour mantra of ignoring the problem which will inevitably cause a run on the pound and the loss of the AAA rating which will also be catastrophic. It's win-win for the tories if they play the long game
You've obviously never followed Australian politics. The Liberals and Nationals traditionally campaign as a coalition. It's never a case of the Liberals saying "Oh noes, we didn't get enough votes, now we're forced to form a coalition." They always enter the election with the Nationals as their pre-selected coalition partner, campaign together as allies, share voting preferences and form a coalition government when they win. IIRC, Australia has not seen a hung parliament at the federal level since 1940 (though 1960 was a very close call).
Of course it is. No system's perfect. But PR is still better than FPTP.
huh ? its been in the labour manifesto for years. admittedly theyve had years to do something about too but didnt :/