Poll: *** 2010 General Election Result & Discussion ***

Who did you vote for?

  • Labour

    Votes: 137 13.9%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 378 38.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 304 30.9%

  • UK Independence Party

    Votes: 27 2.7%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 2 0.2%

  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 10 1.0%

  • British National Party

    Votes: 20 2.0%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • DUP

    Votes: 4 0.4%

  • UUP

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 2 0.2%

  • SDLP

    Votes: 3 0.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 16 1.6%

  • Abstain

    Votes: 80 8.1%
  • Total voters
    985
  • Poll closed .
RDM said:
I am not doing nothing though, I voted for a party that offered some voting reform (as did anyone that voted Con/Lab or Lib Dem). You want me to come and protest against something without offering an alternative. That isn't going to sway me at all.

You think something must be done but cannot say what that something is? So why should I support you? Getting all angry and shouting at people is all too teenage angst for me and I prefer solutions.
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There are no solutions being offered by the major parties. They all want to change it in their favor.

The point of the protest is to prove that what we want matters, and to force people to come up with solutions because of that.
 
Superewza said:
There are no solutions being offered by the major parties. They all want to change it in their favor.

The point of the protest is to prove that what we want matters, and to force people to come up with solutions because of that.
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But you don't even know what you want. So how do we know it matters?
 
rypt said:
How many strikes did the unions go on at BL? What about the useless posties? Or now BA? And they were not being exploited.
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useless posties? not exploited? are you a postman or cabin crew? how about employers changing hrs, overtime, rates of pay, perks (which there are pretty much none nowadays), asking to do a bit more cos its needed otherwise u may be out of a job..... its a farce

some strikes didnt even happen cos they were over ruled by the court, again democracy means sod all, its a ****ed up world and going to get a lot worse
 
Superewza said:
Yes i do. On this matter i want a fair and representative parliamentary system.
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We already have a representative parliamentary system, it represents the will of the voters in each constituency.

As for fair, we don't have that at the moment, because the results are not consistent, but there are other answers to that issue than PR.

You're using subjective terms to describe specific problems that you haven't really defined, and you haven't proposed any real alternative, let alone detailed the pros and cons of each potential solution...
 
Superewza said:
Yes i do. On this matter i want a fair and representative parliamentary system.
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We have one. We also don't have one. All three parties have also proposed changes to make ours fairer, or less fair depending on your point of view. It is all very subjective. Basically you are going "I don't like our system, make it better!". Their answer is "Here is how we are going to make it better." and your reply to that is "No, I want it better." It is the sort of argument I would expect to have with my daughter, but as she is four I can let her off.

Your above statement is as meaningless as "I want the UK to have a fairer tax system" and then giving absolutely no detail whatsoever and what you mean by fair.
 
What is shameful is that the one-eyed Scottish tard is still clinging to power, if he had any honour he would have resigned this morning when he saw that the people of the country had mainly voted against him
 
Rich_L said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ele...David-Cameron-has-had-this-coming-to-him.html

This is the kind of backlash I was referring to earlier - I actually disagree with the article and think that a continued 'traditional' Tory campaign would have probably led to an even worse result for the Tories but I suspect there is some discontent in the Tory ranks from the 'traditional' backbenchers - of note is the mention of Osborne who was not only shadow Chancellor in the generally inept Tory performance during the financial crisis but also was the co-ordinator of the election campaign.
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I don't think Cameron ran a good campaign, but had they followed the right wing of the party they'd not even be in a position to contemplate a minority government.
 
The amount of replies to this thread has now surpassed the **now drinking** thread, priorites people, come on :mad:
 
Dolph said:
We already have a representative parliamentary system, it represents the will of the voters in each constituency.
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Really? When in say, Watford, an MP is elected when 65% of the voters voted against him?

For all the faults of AV proposed by Labour, at least it does ensure that in each constituency the will of the voters is represented.
 
Dolph said:
We already have a representative parliamentary system, it represents the will of the voters in each constituency.

As for fair, we don't have that at the moment, because the results are not consistent, but there are other answers to that issue than PR.

You're using subjective terms to describe specific problems that you haven't really defined, and you haven't proposed any real alternative, let alone detailed the pros and cons of each potential solution...
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Because it's not up to me to do that, you've have to be seriously mentally problematic to think that it's fine as it is. Don't expect it to change by itself. Besides, i'm not the organizer of the event. It's clear to see that it's a good idea, i posted it to inform people of it and to spread the word, not to have to spend my time explaining to right wing bigots as simply as possible that it is ;)

The constituency thing isn't representative at all, it means that there isn't anywhere near 1 vote per person. You're really fine with the fact that 36% Tory, 29% Labour, 26% Liberal in votes turns into 47% Tory, 39% Labour, 9% Liberal in terms of seats?
 
The Mad Rapper said:
What is your problem? You seem quite happy to rip into everyone else but have nothing to say of your own do you? Instead of questioning everyone else's views, how about tell us how you think it should work?
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I did in a previous post. I would be in favour of PR (Mixed Member with a threshold would be my preference) if at the outset parties declared what sort of coalition they would enter in to. That way I could make an informed decision when it came to voting time. It may also help if you read my posts in a more questioning rather than aggressive tone, as I am reasonably laid back and am not really ripping into anyones views, I just don't happen to agree with them. Sadly the written word can be horrible at conveing intent.
 
Rich_L said:
Really? When in say, Watford, an MP is elected when 65% of the voters voted against him?
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Happens all over the place, but such is the way of things.

For all the faults of AV proposed by Labour, at least it does ensure that in each constituency the will of the voters is represented.
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No it doesn't, it ensures that each constituency has a victor that the majority can tolerate, which isn't quite the same thing.

Predictions for 2005 under AV show Labour increasing their share of the seats from 55% to 60% on the same 35% of the vote. AV is not the answer to anything at all.
 
Rich_L said:
Really? When in say, Watford, an MP is elected when 65% of the voters voted against him?

For all the faults of AV proposed by Labour, at least it does ensure that in each constituency the will of the voters is represented.
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But than take my home constituency, 65% of voters voted for the elected MP, shes an independent so under PR wouldn't have gotten a seat in parliament. Fair is a very subjective term
 
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