Poll: *** 2010 General Election Result & Discussion ***

Who did you vote for?

  • Labour

    Votes: 137 13.9%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 378 38.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 304 30.9%

  • UK Independence Party

    Votes: 27 2.7%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 2 0.2%

  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 10 1.0%

  • British National Party

    Votes: 20 2.0%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • DUP

    Votes: 4 0.4%

  • UUP

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 2 0.2%

  • SDLP

    Votes: 3 0.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 16 1.6%

  • Abstain

    Votes: 80 8.1%
  • Total voters
    985
  • Poll closed .
The Mad Rapper said:
We should join the Euro and if you think the UK needs a nuclear deterrent then it's YOU that has a lot to learn.
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Why do you think it is a good idea to join the Euro when even the Germans are currently thinking it is a bad idea? Even the most europhillic party has ruled out Euro membership at the moment and with the current economic situation giving up any tools you can use to help your economy is dangerous. We would have been unable to use quantitive easing if we were in the Euro, our interest rates would have been set for us if we were in the Euro. Surely with what is going on in Greece, Italy, Portugal you can see that a one size fits all financial policy for the varying economies of europe is far from ideal?

As for a nuclear detterent, with the number of nuclear states increasing rather than decreasing I would say that some form of detterent is still necessary.
 
Energize said:
5th biggest economy, 3rd biggest military budget, over $1000 per capita, I think we could cut down a little tbh.
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Umm no we can't. We are strapped for cash as it is, I would say it may not be getting spent on the correct things (military housing/helicopters/equipment/training) but definatly no need to cut it.
 
Energize said:
Do I really have to? Seriously where have you been these past 12 years?

I'm going to bed now but a few main points about the last few years of lab government.

Part III of the RIPA act removes right to silence.
Terrorism act allows detention without charge.
Extreme Porn Laws violate right to privacy. (victimless crime)
Criminalizing more drugs violating right to privacy. (contrary to scientific evidence)
Coroners and Justice Bill to make cartoon extreme porn illegal. (wtf?)
Made protesting outside parliament illegal, violating right to protest.

Clearly the Labour government have removed civil liberties and have begun an ever increasing campaign of censorship supported by the hysterial masses. We actually had a guy in court for Tony the Tiger porn.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...e-after-tiger-sex-image-found-to-be-joke.html
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Is that it? I was worried for a second.:p
 
Andr3w said:
Umm no we can't. We are strapped for cash as it is, I would say it may not be getting spent on the correct things (military housing/helicopters/equipment/training) but definatly no need to cut it.
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Meh, ive given up.

Soo many people think the Tories have the magic answer and that cuts are it.

Welcome to the 80's all over again.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Why?
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the euro will only work when everyone plays by the rules.

We cannot join the euro now anyway because our deficit is way to big.

the euro discussion is just a red herring and nobody is really sure if the euro in it's current form will survive.

I am in favour of a single currency, but if it is not done properly, it will always fail.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
We should join the Euro, it's retarded we haven't. We have no need for Trident, so that can go as well. Next point?
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For the benefit of the naive among you, just because a guy from Russia and the US met and decided to lower their nuclear missile stocks by a small amount does not in any way mean that countries such a Iran and North Korea as well as other states are not developing or have developed nuclear missiles. For some reason people seem to see the fact that the US and Russia met up as some sort of global nuclear arms reduction pact. Its not. The Trident replacement will not be ready for around 15-20 years. Between now and then, a lot can happen. Did anyone predict 9/11 in the 1980s? No, it bloody difficult to. As a country, especially one as disliked in some parts of the world as our own, you must be prepared for certain eventualities . Therefore we need Trident.
 
Gimpymoo said:
Meh, ive given up.

Soo many people think the Tories have the magic answer and that cuts are it.

Welcome to the 80's all over again.
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I'm not saying the tories have the answer, im just saying I don't agree with a lot of what the lib dems want to do.

Our forces are crying out for money...cutting 15 billion will just ruin the forces.
 
Just looking at the elections it's clear to see that Scotland is a totally different country with totally different ideals to England. If you take Scotland out of the equasion Tories would be in power yet in Scotland the Tories simply don't exist as a major party they the 4th party in Scotland.

It's crazy Scotland continues to allow itself to be ruled by its larger neighbour.
 
Gimpymoo said:
Meh, ive given up.

Soo many people think the Tories have the magic answer and that cuts are it.

Welcome to the 80's all over again.
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exactly.

Depending a lot on how things pan out obviously, we could be witnessing a turning point for the UK, if we get a new voting system we may never see the extreme right wing have a say again.
 
jas72 said:
It's crazy Scotland continues to allow itself to be ruled by its larger neighbour.
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It's a union not a hegemony.

In rural England there were very few votes for the Labour party. Should they claim independence?

In Northern cities there was little support for the Conservative party. Should they too claim independence?
 
The Mad Rapper said:
We have no need for Trident, so that can go as well. Next point?
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As lukext pointed out, you can't predict the future, and Trident is a very flexible system and the ultimate deterrent.

At a global level defence spending is far too high. I would be for a united European defence force, as the standing armies, navies and air forces of the European countries, when combined, are simply enormous. You could save so much with a single much smaller force that could provide for all of Europe's defence and peacekeeping needs.
 
Energize said:
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You seem to be suggesting that New Labour's planned "totalitarian state" is responsible for all of the following
  • Removal of the right to silence as part of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000
  • 28 day detention without charge
  • Extreme Porn Laws violating the individual's right to privacy
  • Making cartoon extreme porn illegal
  • The further criminalisation of more drugs violating the individual's right to privacy
  • Making any form of protest outside parliament illegal thereby violating the individual's right to protest
You go on to say that New Labour has removed civil liberties and have begun an ever increasing campaign of censorship supported by the hysterical masses.

The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 was designed specifically to allow law enforcement officers to deal with developing technology - e.g. strong encryption and the Internet - have you any suggestions as to better ways of achieving this laudable end?

28 days detention prior to charge is designed specifically to allow law enforcement officers to investigate terrorist threats without revealing what they know; personally I don't agree with it but then I don't agree with terrorism either.

Banning protests outside Parliament was done specifically to deal with certain long-term protests such as Brian Haw and the Tamil protesters; I don't entirely agree with that either but there are other ways of protesting.


It will I am sure be a source of the greatest relief to you that the lawlessness and disorder, druggie, porn loving Tories are likely now to have the opportunity to reverse all of this legislation as a matter of the utmost urgency ;)
 
Gimpymoo said:
Meh, ive given up.

Soo many people think the Tories have the magic answer and that cuts are it.

Welcome to the 80's all over again.
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Weren't all three parties pretty much suggesting that cuts are pretty much the answer and they only really differed on when they were going to start? Labour, Lib Dem, Conservative, it doesn't matter, all three were suggesting cuts (but not giving any real detail) of about the same magnitude. Why would you think that the Conservative cuts will be any different from the Labour cuts or the Lib Dem cuts? If the Labour or Lib Dem cuts are so much better how come no party had the guts to outline them?
 
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