Does God cause suffering??

naffa said:
No, because the hypothesis of a theistic God can be disproved, or at least made to look much, much more unlikely, than likely.
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It isn't going to score you well in an RS exam though. To be honest the question itself is too vague to really answer, my answer would have been "What God are you talking about?" unless the Abrahamic God was specifically stated.
 
naffa said:
No, because the hypothesis of a theistic God can be disproved...or at least made to look much, much more unlikely, than likely.
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Not really true, but happily the burden of proof is on those who believe there is a god....and thus the second part of your post comes into play :p
 
Alex74 said:
Not really true, but happily the burden of proof is on those who believe there is a god
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the burden of proof is also on those who believe there is no god to prove that too ;)


Ie naffa just made a claim he could disprove the hypothesis, so the burden lies on hi mto back it up.
 
Does God cause suffering??

Well if god does exist, and he created the universe, then yes of course. He is the root of any and all suffering in the universe. Which means god is also a sadistic *******.

*It's worth noting I got an F for GCSE RE, so don't listen to me. And yes that is how I would have answered the question in the exam.
 
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icysniper said:
Now that you put it like that, shouldn't God be Satan and visa vera lol:confused::eek::p
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That answer would depend to an extent on whether you believe that there is ever a valid reason for killing people. If there can be then logically speaking (and I'm wary about using logic here about something that is by definition outwith the convention of logic) there is no reason why that God should not also be able to kill for a valid reason. However there's an awful lot of deaths, pests and plagues that were perpetrated for no other reason than the Abrahmic god was a bit ticked off with his creation so I'd have to say that he does cause suffering if you choose to believe in him.

Absomalutely said:
I think 'no posts on religion' should be added alongside 'no medical posts' as every thread always deteriorates quicker than my toilet paper after a vindaloo.
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But they're kind of fun every so often if you're not too heavily involved, they just start to go round in circles too quickly though.

For me I don't know if a god causes suffering and I don't really feel that the question is a useful one, in a similar vein to my thoughts on god(s) itself - it's largely an irrelevance to my life. Suffering exists, would attributing it to a god make any difference to the amount of suffering in the World? If yes then why would this be the case? If no then the question is an irrelevance so can be discounted except as an intellectual exercise.
 
As far as GCSE RS goes there is no right or wrong answer for this sort of question, what is being tested in questions such as this is your ability to consider different arguments, viewpoints and issues, assess them sensibly and construct a decent logical discussion of the issue, maybe with a relevant conclusion dependant on the specific question.
 
asim18 said:
Does God cause suffering??

Well if god does exist, and he created the universe, then yes of course. He is the root of any and all suffering in the universe. Which means god is also a sadistic *******.
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Aren't you religious though asim? :p :o
 
MacRS4 said:
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this is very useful :)

Rroff said:
To twist that a little... its like god is playing a computer game... you don't feel bad after "killing" someone in MW2 do you? :D
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if we could respawn like in MW2, then there would be no suffering ;)

asim18 said:
Does God cause suffering??

Well if god does exist, and he created the universe, then yes of course. He is the root of any and all suffering in the universe. Which means god is also a sadistic *******.
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good point, he made everything so surely he should be blamed. Then you could argue that God gave freewill etc. so it is human choice :p
 
If God didn't create the Devil then there would be no sin - the world would be completely peaceful. So clearly it's all so God can get his or her rocks off!


Why don't you (Op) just opt out of RS?

When started Secondary school we didn't have to go to it so had a free hour woohoo.
 
Tefal said:
the burden of proof is also on those who believe there is no god to prove that too ;)


Ie naffa just made a claim he could disprove the hypothesis, so the burden lies on hi mto back it up.
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True, hence I say 'not really true'.

A better argument, which I hope he meant to give, is "there is no substantial evidence at this point to suggest that god exists". The burden still then lies, as it should, with the religious community to provide observable evidence which complements what we already know to be true and ties it back into a solid theistic theory.


EDIT: Steering this post back on topic, OP could use this matter of 'proof' in a discussion of religious diversity. After all, who has the greater right to be proclaimed the 'true believers'? This matter of difficulty in justifying one's faith against someone elses could be argued as a cause for religious, and indeed racial prejudice and oppression.
 
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