Poll: Do you support the BA Cabin Crew 12 day strike at Christmas?

Do you support the BA Cabin Crew 12 day strike?

  • Yes

    Votes: 94 12.5%

  • No

    Votes: 656 87.5%
  • Total voters
    750
  • Poll closed .
meghatronic said:
Just flicked through the times.



Are they on crack, striking?
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My point exactly

im sorry but my idea of salary goes with responsibility, risk, inconvenience etc

i fail to see how they justify such a salary for what is basically a waiting job with a bit of risk and safety training thrown in.

The only thing BA are to blame for is letting the staff get away with it. Now they are greedy. BA has said no now instead of yes and so they strike.

Don't see Virgin or any other airline on strike.
 
Some crew are inconvenienced when they spend lots of time away from home but that's the career they chose
 
yeah that's what I meant a bit of risk to your safety and the inconvenience of being away from home.

Still not worth £30k a year
 
The figures thrown around are all various different amounts - pretty sure the BA figure includes the allowance crews get for their away from home time (eg hotel/food costs) whereas Virgin don't include that in the official salary and simply pay it on top, etc.

And, CraigN, they don't just serve food and tea :rolleyes:
 
stockhausen said:
Well if it happens again, you will be able to apply to become a member of BA cabin crew wont you?
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i sure will. its job i can do without even turning up. will just go on strike if i don't like something! i wish.....

BA are a public listed company operating in the private sector. either they cut costs or fail. all these unions are a throw back to it being a nationalised business. unions don't count or apply in the modern market. by striking they are simply running their employer into the ground. so where they lose one crew member on long haul flights they will all be without jobs. take a pay cut and get on with your jobs.
 
Beansprout said:
The figures thrown around are all various different amounts - pretty sure the BA figure includes the allowance crews get for their away from home time (eg hotel/food costs) whereas Virgin don't include that in the official salary and simply pay it on top,
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got any source for this ?

The figures i provided were released by the CAA - civil aviation authority. They should be comparable coming from a neutral 3rd party.
 
The next round in the ongoing dispute between British Airways and the Unite union is set to go ahead on Thursday. The union will learn if its appeal against an injunction stopping planned strikes has been successful.
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On Monday a High Court judge ruled that Unite had failed to properly inform its members about the 11 [out of over 9,000] spoilt ballot papers in the last strike vote. (BBC online)
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MrLOL said:
got any source for this ?

The figures i provided were released by the CAA - civil aviation authority. They should be comparable coming from a neutral 3rd party.
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Indeed they are comparable, as the article says, they exclude bonuses and allowances.

People just resort to the 'they aren't representative' defence when they've not got anything else...
 
Dolph said:
Guardian link.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/may/20/ba-strike-appeal-court-ruling

Ah well, I look forward to the cabin crew on the dole queue soon... They may come to regret this decision.
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Whether the BA staff have a real issue is not the point here, with this judgment it protects those who do, and have to resort to strike action. If all strike action is going to overturned on technicalities, some of which are pretty thin, then workers rights are being suppressed by the legal system. That is wrong.

In this case, did Unite go to all reasonable lengths to ensure that the Ballot was conducted legally and did they issue the information in such a way as it was available to all, yes they did and the original ruling was wrong to side with BA.

Take the recent General Election, the number of spoilt ballot papers in Salisbury is available to view on the City Hall website, and it was posted on the bulletin board in the City Hall itself. Was I informed personally..NO, Was it included in the numerous press releases...NO, so does that make the General Election illegal?
 
Thing is BA is scuppered strike or not the workers are quite right to defend their future redundency payments aquired pension rights.

I'm glad they aren't going the way of so many british workers in the last throws of companies where they take all sorts of crap which make them more attractive to be sold off then the new company sacks them and they lost all their benefits to try to keep the old one afloat.
 
Derek Simpson said:
Our reaction is that it is a sensible decision that reflects the minor, almost irrelevant, case that BA tried to bring, and we are grateful that it puts sense into what is an industrial dispute and strikes at the heart of the argument that minor technicalities can set aside ballots like this one which was overwhelmingly in support and democratically conducted by our members.
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I couldn't agree more. The original ruling by Mr "Justice" McCombe was a complete travesty by someone who is clearly unfit to judge anything more demanding thant Geriatric Come Dancing.

The best thing now would be for the bullying Irish hooligan Willie Walsh to be placed on indefinite gardening leave pending the resolution of this dispute.
 
Gaidin109 said:
Whether the BA staff have a real issue is not the point here, with this judgment it protects those who do, and have to resort to strike action. If all strike action is going to overturned on technicalities, some of which are pretty thin, then workers rights are being suppressed by the legal system. That is wrong.
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I agree with the right to strike, and perhaps this initial judgement was wrong, but where do you draw the line on strike action as being reasonable? Surely there must be a line somewhere?

In this case, did Unite go to all reasonable lengths to ensure that the Ballot was conducted legally and did they issue the information in such a way as it was available to all, yes they did and the original ruling was wrong to side with BA.
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Which is fair enough.

Take the recent General Election, the number of spoilt ballot papers in Salisbury is available to view on the City Hall website, and it was posted on the bulletin board in the City Hall itself. Was I informed personally..NO, Was it included in the numerous press releases...NO, so does that make the General Election illegal?
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Different acts entirely, so an entirely irrelevant comparison.
 
stockhausen said:
I couldn't agree more. The original ruling by Mr "Justice" McCombe was a complete travesty by someone who is clearly unfit to judge anything more demanding thant Geriatric Come Dancing.

The best thing now would be for the bullying Irish hooligan Willie Walsh to be placed on indefinite gardening leave pending the resolution of this dispute.
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What about the bullying and unreasonable Tony Woodley and Derek Simpson?

Do you approve of the suspension of the bullying hooligans within the cabin crew pending disciplinary action?

Do you think that the right to strike should be completely free from consequence for those who choose to partake in it?
 
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