LOST..... How do you think it will end

sunama · 25 May 2010 at 20:55

Inazuma said:
Not really. God's waiting room (which is not actually God's) only explains the flash sideways. What happened on the island over the 6 seasons, happened.

The island stuff is what interested me the most, however, I'm specifically talking about the final (double) episode, when I talk about my dissapointment. I would say that most of the final episode (especially the final ending), was based around "God's waiting room".

Yes, Jack and Locke fought eachother, which I found acceptable in a closing episode, however, the actual ending which was in the Church, was a cop-out and allowed the writers to explain pretty much everything away as mere fantasy - a place that didnt actually exist.

Either way, complaining about it won't help as the series is now finished. I just feel that the ending was a cop-out. Even what happened on the island was very low-key, given that they were building up to the final scene for an entire season(6). I would've expected something a lot more spectactular to happen when Desmond went into the cave.

Anyway, I'm rambling, so I'll stop.

Shamikebab · 25 May 2010 at 20:58

sunama said:
The island stuff is what interested me the most, however, I'm specifically talking about the final (double) episode, when I talk about my dissapointment. I would say that most of the final episode (especially the final ending), was based around "God's waiting room".

Yes, Jack and Locke fought eachother, which I found acceptable in a closing episode, however, the actual ending which was in the Church, was a cop-out and allowed the writers to explain pretty much everything away as mere fantasy - a place that didnt actually exist..

but everything did happen :confused:

it was the side timeline that didn't exist :confused:

daven1986 · 25 May 2010 at 20:59

What I'd like to know, is what was all the fuss about Walt in the first few seasons? He was made out to be special, but that never amounted to anything.

Also what was up with the Dharma initiative?

I really enjoyed the show, and I assume the numbers that Hurley used to win the lottery and all other coincidences were done by Jacob?

I have to watch it all again at some point I think!

Daven

d3moliti0n · 25 May 2010 at 21:05

I have no doubt that they will bring back Lost at some point, it's too much of a blatant 'cash cow' for them to ignore.

It might be good, it might suck, but either way, I'm on board for more Lost.

Master_X · 25 May 2010 at 21:08

So did they all die in the plane crash or are they all dead prior to waking up or did they die someother way we dont know about? i get that the end is the begining of season 1 so it goes in a loop but was all the 'other' people made up or there dead as well?

Shamikebab · 25 May 2010 at 21:10

Master_X said:
So did they all die in the plane crash or are they all dead prior to waking up or did they die someother way we dont know about? i get that the end is the begining of season 1 so it goes in a loop but was all the 'other' people made up or there dead as well?

no they didn't die in the plane crash, they died however they died in the show, that was real life.

Smitho3 · 25 May 2010 at 21:11

daven1986 said:
What I'd like to know, is what was all the fuss about Walt in the first few seasons? He was made out to be special, but that never amounted to anything.

Also what was up with the Dharma initiative?

I really enjoyed the show, and I assume the numbers that Hurley used to win the lottery and all other coincidences were done by Jacob?

I have to watch it all again at some point I think!

Daven

I suspect Puberty had a part to play in Walts disapearance

Afterall the shows timeline was originaly 100days before they got away from the island.

The Dharma initiative was a group of scientists that were researching the energy properties of the island and trying to unlock the secrets of the light source I would imagine.

The numbers were the number of each candidate written on the cave Jacob took Sawyer into. John Locke is 4, Hurley 8, Sawyer 15, Sayid 16, Jack 23 and "Kwon" is 42 however we dont know which of the two it was meant for.

Inazuma · 25 May 2010 at 21:12

Guys, for some reason Walt is credited in the last episode http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1467635/fullcredits#cast
Is this a hint at what the bonus features will contain?

Shamikebab · 25 May 2010 at 21:14

Inazuma said:
Guys, for some reason Walt is credited in the last episode http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1467635/fullcredits#cast
Is this a hint at what the bonus features will contain?

Or because he was in those flashes?

Demoniser · 25 May 2010 at 21:14

He appeared in some archive footage i think, Lockes Flashback iirc. So thats probably why he's credited.

edit: beaten to it

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d3moliti0n · 25 May 2010 at 21:33

Apparently Walt was seen filming for the finale... and there is rumoured to be a Walt/Ben scene that was cut from the finale, so I'm assuming whatever scene Walt was in will be in the box set.

sunama · 25 May 2010 at 21:33

Shamikebab said:
but everything did happen it was the side timeline that didn't exist

And what I'm trying to say is that the alternate reality (which was purgatory - God's waiting room, so to speak), which accounted for around 50% of the final season, didn't happen. This allowed the writers to basically say, "Oh yes, all that other stuff, we don't really need to explain any of it...it never actually happened."

That part (ie. 50% of the final season), was a cop-out.

sunama · 25 May 2010 at 21:35

What happened with Walt - as in where did he end up? And how was did he acquire the special powers (ie. the powers which allowed him to bring back to life, dead animals)?

elh_2009 · 25 May 2010 at 21:36

when the light came from the hatch back in season 2? desmond had a flash back / forward (well we all thought it was a flash back / forward at the time) where he sees charlie playing guitar in the street, he says something like "hey charlie" "we were on the island" ect.. with charlie not knowing who he is.

now knowing the ending that was obviously a flash sideways, i know its a easy thing to tie in given the ending but maybe this wasnt a "cop-out" and was the ending they were planing all along?

Nexus · 25 May 2010 at 21:45

Aside from the fact that Walt got older, outside of Lost and that the first series was obviously not all planned out on what would be happening 5 series later. I'd say that he was 'special' because it could perhaps be considered that he was also a candidate.

Walt & Michael's quandary in their flashbacks is that they weren't close and they didn't get on at first after the plane crash. I think their issues were resolved early though, as Michael would do anything for his son and Walt came to respect him.

On that basis, it could be said that Jacob let them leave, like how he crossed off Kate, because she had become a 'mother' and had someone who relied on her, where she wasn't being selfish and only thinking of herself.

That's just my theory, but you can come up with whatever you want, that's the beauty of Lost.

TFleming · 25 May 2010 at 21:49

sunama said:
What happened with Walt - as in where did he end up? And how was did he acquire the special powers (ie. the powers which allowed him to bring back to life, dead animals)?

He was on the finale set and was pictured. Some are saying he'll be in the extra or it could have just been writers causing speculation and throwing people a little.

Shamikebab · 25 May 2010 at 21:49

sunama said:
And what I'm trying to say is that the alternate reality (which was purgatory - God's waiting room, so to speak), which accounted for around 50% of the final season, didn't happen. This allowed the writers to basically say, "Oh yes, all that other stuff, we don't really need to explain any of it...it never actually happened."

That part (ie. 50% of the final season), was a cop-out.

50% of the final season? I think not.
And what do you mean cop out, it was basically whatever the losties wanted to have happened to them in life, what exactly did you want it to be?

bam0 · 25 May 2010 at 22:12

Master_X said:
So did they all die in the plane crash or are they all dead prior to waking up or did they die someother way we dont know about? i get that the end is the begining of season 1 so it goes in a loop but was all the 'other' people made up or there dead as well?

How did you get the idea of a loop? That plane was the people who got to the plane on Hydra Island leaving. Everything on the Island was real life.

bam0 · 25 May 2010 at 22:16

Shamikebab said:
50% of the final season? I think not.
And what do you mean cop out, it was basically whatever the losties wanted to have happened to them in life, what exactly did you want it to be?

I'd have been quite happy if it was merely an alternative timeline and the finale was a collapsing of two timelines together, so all those who had died weren't actually dead. Desmond being key as he had awareness in both (which we saw from the previous season where he jumped around time and was aware), they'd be some epic battle/resolution of the smoke monster issue and perhaps one of them would have decided to stay on the Island.
Basically I'd have preferred it tied back in to it's sci fi origin rather than becoming a soap.

Demoniser · 25 May 2010 at 22:21

bam0 said:
Basically I'd have preferred it tied back in to it's sci fi origin rather than becoming a soap.

It has always been a character drama/focused show from the start :S.

The characters were the primary part of the show, everything else was secondary. That's ultimately why the ending was so focused on the characters and their relationships instead of the sci fi stuff which granted did deserve some more time, and i would have liked to have seen some more of that side of things in the end.