LOST..... How do you think it will end
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Was even worse than I imagined, I mean I knew that after season 3 there was no actual plot and the writers were just making it up as they went along, so the ending couldn't be good. But "they all died and went to heaven", (that the director said right from the start was not the case) is something that even a 5 year old could better. It looks like they just gave up at the end.
Now I know how Locke felt in "Deus Ex Machina".
Now I know how Locke felt in "Deus Ex Machina".
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Dear me, I guess you only watched the last episode.
edit: Oooh yes, look what I just stole from someone.
Suuuuperman paaaaawnch
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I take it you were one of the writers then?
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I think the flash forwards and the flash sideways were the things that killed it.
They should have had more flash backs from the people who were on the island before the losties like they did with desmond at the end of season 2.
That way they could have explained a lot of the questions.
With regards to Walt instead of just forgetting about him like they did imo they could have had him die during an experiment of his powers or something like that and that could have set up an explanaton for why he had the powers he had.
It did seem like from season 4 onwards that they were just making things up as they went along.
I was expecting for someone to appear when Desmond removed the cork (I still cant get over the fact it was litraly a cork) and explain everything about where the island came why it was so unique and why the losties must stop smokie.
It seemed to me that in the last episode there was no real threat from smokie and I wanted him to get off the island just to see what would happen.
The whole show from day one felt as if it was buliding up to something big but to me that big thing never happened.
What annoys me the most is that the writers have said more than once that we would get answers to the big questions but we never really did we were just left with more questions and they have gone on record now to say that they wont discuss the show and will leave it up to the audience to make up their own minds about what the show was about. To me that's just an excuse for them not to even bother to try and answer anything. It just screams of lazyness on their part yet everyone has praised them for it.
Without a doubt the character building was amazing, but they should have stuck with the losties instead of dropping more and more usless charcters into the mix with each episode.
They should have had more flash backs from the people who were on the island before the losties like they did with desmond at the end of season 2.
That way they could have explained a lot of the questions.
With regards to Walt instead of just forgetting about him like they did imo they could have had him die during an experiment of his powers or something like that and that could have set up an explanaton for why he had the powers he had.
It did seem like from season 4 onwards that they were just making things up as they went along.
I was expecting for someone to appear when Desmond removed the cork (I still cant get over the fact it was litraly a cork) and explain everything about where the island came why it was so unique and why the losties must stop smokie.
It seemed to me that in the last episode there was no real threat from smokie and I wanted him to get off the island just to see what would happen.
The whole show from day one felt as if it was buliding up to something big but to me that big thing never happened.
What annoys me the most is that the writers have said more than once that we would get answers to the big questions but we never really did we were just left with more questions and they have gone on record now to say that they wont discuss the show and will leave it up to the audience to make up their own minds about what the show was about. To me that's just an excuse for them not to even bother to try and answer anything. It just screams of lazyness on their part yet everyone has praised them for it.
Without a doubt the character building was amazing, but they should have stuck with the losties instead of dropping more and more usless charcters into the mix with each episode.
I see lots of writer whinging, To me finale was perfect do i want all the questions to be answered ? Not at all im happy with it all.
When they said they would answer everything i never thought they actually would i think it was done on purpose to make us maybe carry on watching it as some people thought "oh they will answer ill keep going" and they answered some not all.
Tis a shame as we have lost one of the best TV shows ever =(
When they said they would answer everything i never thought they actually would i think it was done on purpose to make us maybe carry on watching it as some people thought "oh they will answer ill keep going" and they answered some not all.
Tis a shame as we have lost one of the best TV shows ever =(
They get very defensive and patronising in here, it's like you're pointing out how ugly their child is. Step carefully.
I'm going to sound repetitive but have you seen BSG? That is how you can do a show with deep characters, plenty of mystery and still wrap it all up at the end. I agree that the Lost writers just panicked when they looked back at everything and thought it was too hard to even try and tie it up coherently so just ignored all the previous work and tried to con you into not caring by making a heavily emotional ending that was all about the characters?
Yes i have seen BSG and i also enjoyed that very much down with this as one of the best TV shows we will ever see.
Having said that BSG wasnt imo anywere near as complex of a show that LOST is, maybe i enjoyed LOST finale so much was the way the characters were written and done it seemed to end perfectly and give them what they all deserved cliche i know.
I also like the fact i can assume on some of the questions what i think happened and the mystery is still their as that and the characters made me watch it.
We always knew this finale would and wouldnt be liked by many hell Hurley (Garcia) said that in a interview.
I also wouldnt say it was a con because if they answered everything in honesty id be disappointed due to then the mystery is gone which is half of what LOST has been about.
its almost as if during the writer strike in america they fired all of the writers and hired a bunch of monkeys to bang on type writers to keep the show going.
the people who wrote the first few series cant be the ones who wrote the last few the show completely changes and non of this your either "faith" or "sci-fi" washes with me
I've noticed this as well.
Some people take criticism about Lost, personally and don't want to hear anything bad said about it.
Except, if you subscribe to that idea, that Lost was all about the character's 'journey' and that understanding more about the island doesn't matter. Then what was the point of S2-S5?
S1 pretty much did all the major character building and created most of the emotional link with the main characters. Most of the 'journey' from then on, was either introducing new 'pointless' characters, who only added to the 'mystery' of the island through a serious of Chinese-whispers. The lives of the main characters could easily have been dramatically condensed down in S2-S5.
If they really wanted to go with the ending that they did. I'd rather have had 2 seasons of the main character's lives on a mysterious island, with the plot focussing on their differing stance on faith and science. And then had none of the ridiculous half-hearted attempts at explaining stuff like Jacob/smoke monster/the light at the centre/moving the island/what the island was.
Then S6 (S3) could have just been about Jack/Hurley taking over the role of 'protector' based purely on faith. They could still have used the flash-sideways and Christian in the same way, to explain that Jack/Hurley had somehow used the island and created a 'place' for them all to meet up after death. Although I'd have probably liked a bit more info than what we actually got.
IMO, that would have had a more emotional effect, as it wouldn't have left me feeling like I'd been trolled by the writers during the seasons leading up to the finale.
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I didn't enjoy the ending but after thinking about it, reading the ideas of others on here, lying in bed it suddenly clicked and now i realise i don't need to know the answers for it to make sense and actually i think the ending is really good because it does bring the program to an end but in a lovely way.
(would be nice to find some out though
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Why do people keep thinking they were dead from the crash forwardsDid you not watch the last episode with your eyes open?
haha
They didn't "all die" in the way you are describing.
Everyone dies....eventually.
We don't know how long the characters lived for.
Some of them we saw die.
Hurley & Ben could have been ruling the island for thousands of years for what we know.
We know Kate and the others that escaped the island had long lives.
Everyone dies in the end, so it should be no surprise that eventually all of the characters died.
I don't mean to sound rude, but I don't necessarily think most people would have enjoyed a two season show, which included the most expensive pilot ever. They (the production team/companies) obviously wanted to recoup their costs and make a profit, so to play it out over 6 seasons and string along a loyal fanbase was probably the best way to do it. I'm quite sure they couldn't care less about the people that didn't enjoy the ending, and would rather satisfy the masses.
Most people I know who like the show (die hard and part-time fans alike) were interested in the show because of the plots and characters, instead of the science aspect. As such, most people I know were satisfied with the ending. I can completely sympathise with those who felt the ending was a cop out, and can understand why, but I think the producers (correctly, in my opinion) went for character closure instead of science/answer closure.
So, just to be clear, you'd have wanted a Lost with no Faraday, Desmond, Penny, etc?
Are some people a bit simple, or are they just sycophantic towards the writers? Plot resolution and character conclusion are *NOT* mutually exclusive.
Juliet died at the beginning of S6, after Sawyer had dug down to her. I think the general consensus is that the bomb went off and just shifted time, but didn't kill anybody. You could say that time shifted in the fraction of a second after he explosion i.e. before the shock wave had gone any distance at all. There is also something in that scene with Sawyer and Juliet which suggests Juliet has seen the afterlife just before she dies.
Aside from this I'm just as disatisfied as you about their ending, the overwhelming feeling is that all the time used up by the flash sideways in this season has pretty much been a waste of time, they could have cut that back significantly and used more time to explain more of the mystery, but the thing about Juliet dieing with the bomb is not 100% correct.