The Budget

dirtydog · 22 Jun 2010 at 13:58

britboy4321 said:
er, yes they do.

You told us that a 2.5% VAT rise is like a 2.5% pay cut so your opinions don't mean much TBH, you clearly don't have a clue. Probably best to go away before you embarrass yourself further.

Over Clocker · 22 Jun 2010 at 13:58

The Mad Rapper said:
So what? Other countries don't get it dry in the arse like we do on all the other taxes. You need to compare the total tax burdens between countries, you can't just cherry pick what you like.

Ok, looking at the total tax burden, the UK is still far lower than France, Germany, Japan, Italy etc etc. Infact, it is lower than 28 other countries, including the USA!

The Mad Rapper · 22 Jun 2010 at 13:59

britboy4321 said:
So you claim benefits that you don't need, and somehow justify it.

Funny, the long-term 'can't be bothered to get a job' do EXACTLY the same thing.

Can you spell 'irony'?

Except that my wife and I earn six figures a year and pay more tax than 99% of this forum. So your example is ******** - we pay FAR more than we take - hardly the same as scum on benefits.

DB_SamX · 22 Jun 2010 at 13:59

RadoX said:
this budget been good or bad for the £ then in your opinion ?

1357An early indication of market reaction to the Budget. Sterling has risen slightly against the euro and the US dollar.

The Mad Rapper · 22 Jun 2010 at 13:59

Over Clocker said:
Ok, looking at the total tax burden, the UK is still far lower than France, Germany, Japan, Italy etc etc. Infact, it is lower than 28 other countries, including the USA!

Source?

And I want to see what the burden is as a % of salary as well.

Over Clocker · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:00

britboy4321 said:
er, yes they do. Lets take you. From ages 0 - 16 what percentage of your money did you spend on VAT exempt stuff? Over 50%, or less than 50%?

LOL, you so funny

britboy4321 · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:00

The Mad Rapper said:
Except that my wife and I earn six figures a year and pay more tax than 99% of this forum. So your example is ******** - we pay FAR more than we take - hardly the same as scum on benefits.

Thats like saying 'I buy LOADS of stuff from HMV, so nicking a single DVD can be justified, compared to 'tramp that never buys anything' nicking one.

Doesn't hold water I'm afraid dude .. you're either FOR people claiming benefits they don't need, or AGAINST it, or a hippocrit. You decide!

Ahleckz · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:00

Robbie G said:
At least we now have Englishmen in charge of England again.

Is this a serious point? :confused:

memyselfandi · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:01

dirtydog said:
I think we'll hear a lot more about measures for sorting out welfare scroungers, from the minister responsible for that department in the near future.

I certainly hope so. There appears to be far to many people getting away with claiming far to much instead of doing work ...

Disco Boy · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:01

Is it just me who found HH's response to the budget to be utterly pathetic? She concentrated on questioning the integrity of Clegg and Cameron and throwing mud rather than offering up an alternative.

krooton · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:01

britboy4321 said:
er, yes they do. Lets take you. From ages 0 - 16 what percentage of your money did you spend on VAT exempt stuff? Over 50%, or less than 50%?

Considering I didn't have my own money during those 16 years, I have to go with less than 50%.

The Mad Rapper · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:02

britboy4321 said:
Thats like saying 'I buy LOADS of stuff from HMV, so nicking a single DVD can be justified, compared to 'tramp that never buys anything' nicking one.

Doesn't hold water I'm afraid dude .. you're either FOR people claiming benefits they don't need, or AGAINST it, or a hippocrit. You decide!

Come back when you can put forth a reasoned argument that is a. relevant and b. makes sense.

Strife212 · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:02

I reckon most spending is on goods which have VAT applied?

Participant · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:03

Ahleckz said:
Is this a serious point?

Lol, suddenly the Scots are opposed to prejudice? I'm very glad that Brown and Darling are not running this country anymore, yes.

dirtydog · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:03

britboy4321 said:
Thats like saying 'I buy LOADS of stuff from HMV, so nicking a single DVD can be justified, compared to 'tramp that never buys anything' nicking one.

Doesn't hold water I'm afraid dude .. you're either FOR people claiming benefits they don't need, or AGAINST it, or a hippocrit. You decide!

That is a logical fallacy.

For a start he would still be massively a net contributor in taxes, whereas there are millions who are net takers from the taxpayer.

Bar · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:03

Disco Boy said:
Is it just me who found HH's response to the budget to be utterly pathetic? She concentrated on questioning the integrity of Clegg and Cameron and throwing mud rather than offering up an alternative.

I thought it was rather interesting that Alistair Darling seemed rather quiet and subdued when she was ranting.

Ahleckz · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:03

Hazel Blears doesn't understand VAT as she can still get away with buying children's clothes!

britboy4321 · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:03

krooton said:
Considering I didn't have my own money during those 16 years, I have to go with less than 50%.

Precisely. The vast majority of the people in this country, for one reason or another, spend less than 50% of their disposable income on VAT exempt goods.

But try explaining that to this forum! It's a minefield I tells ya!

dirtydog · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:04

Strife212 said:
I reckon most spending is on goods which have VAT applied?

You're wrong too then

Bar · 22 Jun 2010 at 14:04

britboy4321 said:
Precisely. The vast majority of the people in this country, for one reason or another, spend less than 50% of their disposable income on VAT exempt goods.

But try explaining that to this forum! It's a minefield I tells ya!

Do you have any evidence what so ever to back these statements up? I appreciate that this is GD and not SC but I would love to see some evidence.