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I actually quite like the look of the bumper. Not sure I'll be getting one though!

Just realised I don't have Visual Voicemail. Does Orange not do it?
 
BUSH said:
I was told in the queue at regent street (by a blue shirt apple person) that the sim free iphones are just that 'sim free', but once you insert a sim, it locks to the network and you're at them mercy of the network as to whether you can unlock it.
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That's rubbish, when I connected my SIM free iPhone to iTunes I got the standard "Your phone is now unlocked" message.
 
BUSH said:
I was told in the queue at regent street (by a blue shirt apple person) that the sim free iphones are just that 'sim free', but once you insert a sim, it locks to the network and you're at them mercy of the network as to whether you can unlock it.

now, she took about 5 minutes to explain this, and i'm not sure how convinced i am by her to be honest, but my be worth checking.

One infuriating thing for me signing up as a new vodafone customer, you can only port your number at point of signing contract, so ended up with a new number :(
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Hmmm interesting...i thought sim free meant it was unlocked no matter what sim card you put in??.

If thats the case then i might as well just order a 32gb from a network and be done with it.

Can anyone confirm this??

Ahhh ok should have read further lol...Feek just confirmed that it stays unlocked.
 
Spawn said:
Hmmm interesting...i thought sim free meant it was unlocked no matter what sim card you put in??.

If thats the case then i might as well just order a 32gb from a network and be done with it.

Can anyone confirm this??

Ahhh ok should have read further lol...Feek just confirmed that it stays unlocked.
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As Feek said above, I can just about 99% confirm that is a load of rubbish.

Heh, even though I'm not happy about the signal flaw, I want one and I HATE waiting :( :p

Edit: Loving the people bidding £850+ on eBay for the 32GB :D
 
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XZiBIT said:
Very happy after upgrading from the 3gs. Screen is amazing but I'm a bit worried 16gb isn't enough now!
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I've got plenty free on my 16GB. Quite a few games installed along with TomTom, 1GB of music, a few photos and a few short hd videos. 9.5GB free at the mo and will only probably use that for anymore photos and videos.
 
Robboftw said:
As Feek said above, I can just about 99% confirm that is a load of rubbish.

Heh, even though I'm not happy about the signal flaw, I want one and I HATE waiting :( :p

Edit: Loving the people bidding £850+ on eBay for the 32GB :D
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Just not ebay selling the 32gb for stupid money....even online retailers are selling them for £800+:eek:

Crikey just looked at ebay...utterly ridiculous for the prices they are asking...might as well order from apple, get it cheaper and maybe a fix for the reception issue:p
 
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BUSH said:
I was told in the queue at regent street (by a blue shirt apple person) that the sim free iphones are just that 'sim free', but once you insert a sim, it locks to the network and you're at them mercy of the network as to whether you can unlock it.
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I was told that they do technically lock to the network of the sim you put in, but can be unlocked by simply connecting to itunes with the other sim in. Which is the same as how the 3GS behaved.
 
Burned_Alive said:
I was told that they do technically lock to the network of the sim you put in, but can be unlocked by simply connecting to itunes with the other sim in. Which is the same as how the 3GS behaved.
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I would expect a phone to be "locked" when you have to contact the carrier to get them to update your phone's IMEI.

for iPhone 3G/3GS they were locked via Apple's server using the phone's IMEI to identify whether it is locked or not.

Wikipedia:
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Most iPhones are sold with a SIM lock, which restricts the use of the phone to one particular carrier, a common practice with subsidized GSM phones. Unlike most GSM phones however, the phone cannot be officially unlocked by entering a code. The locked/unlocked state is maintained on Apple's servers per IMEI and is set when the iPhone is activated.
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Apple iPhone 4's FAQ section:

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Do I need to commit to a long-term contract for my iPhone?

Buying a SIM-free iPhone from the Apple Online Store allows you choose your own carrier and change carriers at any time. iPhone may also be available at a reduced initial price with a contract directly from your wireless carrier.
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Just applied the Invisible shield to the back of the iphone.

Thankful that i did the back first, its not really invisible.

think i might leave the front alone, and just protect the back as im only going to be lying it on its back.
 
eternal_fantasy said:
I would expect a phone to be "locked" when you have to contact the carrier to get them to update your phone's IMEI.

for iPhone 3G/3GS they were locked via Apple's server using the phone's IMEI to identify whether it is locked or not.

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Apple iPhone 4's FAQ section:
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I think it just means you cant swap between different carrier sims intially without using itunes, same as the 3GS.

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Just applied the Invisible shield to the back of the iphone.

Thankful that i did the back first, its not really invisible.

think i might leave the front alone, and just protect the back as im only going to be lying it on its back.
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Is that the Zagg? Do you have any pictures?
 
On the phone to O2 earlier and the lady was telling me you can't cut a normal sim down to a Msim, saying its 'new/different' technology in the sim, what absolute utter garbage. She said I need a new iphone sim, as its different to normal simcards. When I asked how, she said it just is. Where do they get these people from? :(

I am forced to wait for O2 to send me a Msim, even though a cut a spare O2 sim down to size (it works) and tried to have my number transferred over to that simcard but no, they just couldn't do it. :(

Anyhow, on a positive note I have been testing out the reception thing all day and at one point I managed to get the bars to drop. I had to hold it in a manner no one ever would in reality. I have only been at home all evening and seen nothing but 5 bars, tomorrow when I am out and about I shall report back but atm I am looking to keep this. I have no reasons as of yet to return it to apple for a refund. :)

BTW can someone please tell me the quickest/simplest way to transfer my contact list from my old 3G to my new iphone 4?
 
e36Adz said:
On the phone to O2 earlier and the lady was telling me you can't cut a normal sim down to a Msim, saying its 'new/different' technology in the sim, what absolute utter garbage. She said I need a new iphone sim, as its different to normal simcards. When I asked how, she said it just is. Where do they get these people from? :(

I am forced to wait for O2 to send me a Msim, even though a cut a spare O2 sim down to size (it works) and tried to have my number transferred over to that simcard but no, they just couldn't do it. :(

Anyhow, on a positive note I have been testing out the reception thing all day and at one point I managed to get the bars to drop. I had to hold it in a manner no one ever would in reality. I have only been at home all evening and seen nothing but 5 bars, tomorrow when I am out and about I shall report back but atm I am looking to keep this. I have no reasons as of yet to return it to apple for a refund. :)

BTW can someone please tell me the quickest/simplest way to transfer my contact list from my old 3G to my new iphone 4?
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If you're not restoring from your 3G, then probably syncing to/from outlook via itunes.
 
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