You're right. It's made for 10 year olds who are raking in the cash and have £130 to burn.
UK Kinect price
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You're right. It's made for 10 year olds who are raking in the cash and have £130 to burn.
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Those must be the same 10 year olds that all bought their Wii's?You're right. It's made for 10 year olds who are raking in the cash and have £130 to burn.
Basically I see Kinect as a family / casual game device, and Microsoft is blatently looking into that direction when you see the games that they have coming out for it. They've made a fantastic piece of kit, but it's no Minority Report that I think many are expecting it to be. It has been overhyped though, with rubbish like the Milo videos and Molyneux acting like it's proper AI when it's just a lot of clever scripting. Stuff like that is the reason I'm expecting that the Kinect will sell way more than the Move, at least for the initial release until people realise it's not exactly what they were expecting.
Then you have the Move and it's line up which is far more revolving around people who are more like us lot. That doesn't necessarily make it better, it's just that a controller will always be better for us for a long time (I believe so at least). Although that ball on the top looks ridiculous, but I've read that it is used to drastically improve precision.
On the pricing - it's more expensive than I was expecting. I expected something a lot more closer to the Move's price range but I knew it would be more costly... just didn't think that much more. Kinda suprised Microsoft never added some kind of special deal for the people who just splashed out on a 360 "S" Elite, because if the "S" Arcade is £150 and the Arcade + Kinect package is £250, that means it's £30 cheaper than what the people who already got the Elite are going to have to pay.
At the moment, if I go with any, it's going to be the Move (I own both consoles). It's more suited to someone like me, it's gaming line up so far looks more suited to people like me, I can sit down and play, I won't have to flail around like an idiot to play games and it's cheaper.
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TBF Although it IS Expensive, it's also in some ways cheap. It's 1 controller for multiple people (although it can only apparently track 2 at a single time), so it's essentially 2 controllers. Buy 2 Wii controllers plus Nunchucks and a games, and you'll probably be at this price point, same with Move (probably be well over this price point wit Move TBH, although the bundle they have helps too). So consider that if you will.
There is also the fact that this is supposed to be being integrated into Windows Media Centre too, which is good if you want rid of the remote (although saying Ecksbarks or PeeSee every time could get annoying). But again probably a niche audience.
The thing is, the press so far have slated it until they've seen it then said it works like a charm and tracks movement amazingly well. The problem is it has nothing but fitness, party and dance games, the games that made the wii the success it is, will people really be willing to buy, essentially, the same ****? No! So you have to grab the main audience of the consoles existing base. The hardcore gamers. And Forza really didn't do that with it's dumbed down controls and stupid "Sit in a Ferraris yet you actually aren't" thing.
Plus it needs to work when you are sitting down too. Standing up is going to get tedious fast, thats the good thing with the sensors in Move and Wii they can be tricked to some degree.
I cannot really see a great way to implement this into my favourite games. Platformers could be good grabbing stuff and things like that, maybe doing some of the actions, but FPS is going to be limited, you'll likely need a pad aswell as this.
I dunno. For me it's too much considering I'd play it once show it to some friends then never use. For people that will use it, and get the entertainment from it probably is a bargain, but so far those people are 10 or dancers or girls or a colossal fatty! Plus by the time any good games that might come out for it it may have dropped in price, at which point it might be worth considering.
There is also the fact that this is supposed to be being integrated into Windows Media Centre too, which is good if you want rid of the remote (although saying Ecksbarks or PeeSee every time could get annoying). But again probably a niche audience.
The thing is, the press so far have slated it until they've seen it then said it works like a charm and tracks movement amazingly well. The problem is it has nothing but fitness, party and dance games, the games that made the wii the success it is, will people really be willing to buy, essentially, the same ****? No! So you have to grab the main audience of the consoles existing base. The hardcore gamers. And Forza really didn't do that with it's dumbed down controls and stupid "Sit in a Ferraris yet you actually aren't" thing.
Plus it needs to work when you are sitting down too. Standing up is going to get tedious fast, thats the good thing with the sensors in Move and Wii they can be tricked to some degree.
I cannot really see a great way to implement this into my favourite games. Platformers could be good grabbing stuff and things like that, maybe doing some of the actions, but FPS is going to be limited, you'll likely need a pad aswell as this.
I dunno. For me it's too much considering I'd play it once show it to some friends then never use. For people that will use it, and get the entertainment from it probably is a bargain, but so far those people are 10 or dancers or girls or a colossal fatty! Plus by the time any good games that might come out for it it may have dropped in price, at which point it might be worth considering.
It has been priced like this so people go for the bundle they want to shift consoles with it most people that already have a 360 they class as different this focus is for kids/family which really wouldn't have 360 already and its basically an xmas release.
4gb new 360 which i refuse to call slim its no smaller then original is a joke but it's ms so it's no surprise they have some very odd business sense now days or lack off i should say they are wasting all them old hard drives which they could have put in this machine and they haven't even released a new version hard drive so if people got an 4gb model then they cant purchase content at a later date more business lost for ms.
4gb new 360 which i refuse to call slim its no smaller then original is a joke but it's ms so it's no surprise they have some very odd business sense now days or lack off i should say they are wasting all them old hard drives which they could have put in this machine and they haven't even released a new version hard drive so if people got an 4gb model then they cant purchase content at a later date more business lost for ms.
Yeah, despite being quite fine with MS on their console stuff so far, this is ridiculous..
I'll be voting with my wallet, and not bothering, the Wii/Wii fit is good enough for the kids/missus, I'm not spending £130 on what would be a 'whim'..
I'll be voting with my wallet, and not bothering, the Wii/Wii fit is good enough for the kids/missus, I'm not spending £130 on what would be a 'whim'..
I'm pretty sure they will have their drives ready for the arcades launch.
You would think so but no mention about them at all not even from inside sources.
The way they do business I wouldn't be surprised if they don't offer one any time soon to force people to pay out more for higher model or they believe people buying new arcade wont need more then what usb drives can offer.
Sorry confused me, MS are milking it Sony arent? For 2 players you need one Kinect priced at £129.99 or a Move starter pack, 2 navigation controllers and one motion controller with a combined price of £134.96. It seems to work out cheaper to me.
Both are overpriced, but lets not pretend Sony are any better.
Same with every gadget early adaptors get shafted, in a year both will be half the price they are now
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C&VG.com, Tim Ingham wrote:
What's in a price? When it comes to Microsoft's decision to launch a clever camera (okay, a very clever camera) at a higher cost than its current 360 Arcade SKU - quite a lot.
£130 is a devastatingly expensive gamble for any consumer thinking about splashing out on an untested peripheral - whether full-time mum or full-time fragger.
But that's because the standalone Kinect SKU isn't where Microsoft is placing its bets. It knows it's not going to be a crazy seller. It didn't even put it at the top of this afternoon's press release.
The solus Kinect camera is aimed at a small number of very specific Christmas customers - the dyed-in-the-wool Xboxolyte.
Whether it's an exorbitant attempt to woo a girlfriend to their green hub of gaming or a ravenous appetite for early adoption (coupled with an indestructible faith in Microsoft to deliver the goods), there will be hardcore gamers out there that will snap Kinect up for their existing 360 on day one.
Not a great number of them, but some - and good luck to them. Microsoft knows it, and that's why it can slap a pricetag akin to a last minute deal to Malaga on its new noir wonder.
More importantly, it sees little point in wooing the more cynical of their ilk just yet.
How can we ascertain this? Because of that new console bundle. Small, slick, unfiddly - and with less memory than an iPod Nano.
But when you consider that for £250 you'll be able to pick up Kinect, Kinect Adventures and a spanking new next-gen console, Microsoft's boddy-popping peripheral all-of-a-sudden becomes a lot more reasonable.
Not to you and I - 250GB-chomping types with cruddy, overused Xbod pads - but to them. The non-console owners. Those who flirted with Wii but never jumped. Those who Microsoft's marketing machine will be going full steam ahead to bedazzle before St. Nick pops down the chimney.
We suspected it back at E3 - when MS paraded an insipid software line-up of games that did little for Halo heads or Fable followers.
But now, post-pricing, we know it for sure. We're not invited to the Kinect party - at least not to the VIP area. That's for those who'll probably never know what turning on an Xbox with a manual button feels like.
Microsoft has installed bases to expand on, and we can't help them with that. They most certainly can.
Kinect's price will gradually decline, of course - and may even hit that £99 sweet spot just as some respectable, triple-A software is offered up for it.
But until then, all the dreams of what a voice-reading, ankle-monitoring, witchcraft-powered peripheral could do for hardcore games should be put on ice.
Whatever Mr. Greenberg may say, PlayStation Move is looking like the peripheral most likely to draw the hardcore this Q4 - and Microsoft's newly announced pricing structure suggests they know it better than anyone.
What's in a price? When it comes to Microsoft's decision to launch a clever camera (okay, a very clever camera) at a higher cost than its current 360 Arcade SKU - quite a lot.
£130 is a devastatingly expensive gamble for any consumer thinking about splashing out on an untested peripheral - whether full-time mum or full-time fragger.
But that's because the standalone Kinect SKU isn't where Microsoft is placing its bets. It knows it's not going to be a crazy seller. It didn't even put it at the top of this afternoon's press release.
The solus Kinect camera is aimed at a small number of very specific Christmas customers - the dyed-in-the-wool Xboxolyte.
Whether it's an exorbitant attempt to woo a girlfriend to their green hub of gaming or a ravenous appetite for early adoption (coupled with an indestructible faith in Microsoft to deliver the goods), there will be hardcore gamers out there that will snap Kinect up for their existing 360 on day one.
Not a great number of them, but some - and good luck to them. Microsoft knows it, and that's why it can slap a pricetag akin to a last minute deal to Malaga on its new noir wonder.
More importantly, it sees little point in wooing the more cynical of their ilk just yet.
How can we ascertain this? Because of that new console bundle. Small, slick, unfiddly - and with less memory than an iPod Nano.
But when you consider that for £250 you'll be able to pick up Kinect, Kinect Adventures and a spanking new next-gen console, Microsoft's boddy-popping peripheral all-of-a-sudden becomes a lot more reasonable.
Not to you and I - 250GB-chomping types with cruddy, overused Xbod pads - but to them. The non-console owners. Those who flirted with Wii but never jumped. Those who Microsoft's marketing machine will be going full steam ahead to bedazzle before St. Nick pops down the chimney.
We suspected it back at E3 - when MS paraded an insipid software line-up of games that did little for Halo heads or Fable followers.
But now, post-pricing, we know it for sure. We're not invited to the Kinect party - at least not to the VIP area. That's for those who'll probably never know what turning on an Xbox with a manual button feels like.
Microsoft has installed bases to expand on, and we can't help them with that. They most certainly can.
Kinect's price will gradually decline, of course - and may even hit that £99 sweet spot just as some respectable, triple-A software is offered up for it.
But until then, all the dreams of what a voice-reading, ankle-monitoring, witchcraft-powered peripheral could do for hardcore games should be put on ice.
Whatever Mr. Greenberg may say, PlayStation Move is looking like the peripheral most likely to draw the hardcore this Q4 - and Microsoft's newly announced pricing structure suggests they know it better than anyone.
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the wii sold in stores for something like £190 at release, then on ebay for something stupid like £300. perhaps ms have priced the kinect high enough so they get all the money from stupidly high spenders around the xmas period and then they'll drop it after for normal people?
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Waiting to see if they will do a Dance Central + Kinect bundle, not really happy with the price as it is though.
Having owned a Wii for years, I think I'm secure enough in the notion that most motion controlled games are crap, and that only some make great use of the controls (MP3, RE4, Wii Sports Resort). There's no way I'm paying £130 for this. I'll be saving my money for the 3DS, which looks like it's going to kick ass.
If i could get it with dance central for a ton, then i would have been tempted to buy it (i almost bought Tony Hawk ride on release!!), but it would be 180 quid to play one game i would only play for an couple of hours.
No fanks.
No fanks.
Choice of Kinect or 3DS, i'll probably buy a 3DS, and i never played my DS (i have bought 2 of them and sold them, and i have managed to acuire a 3rd lol)
Come to think of it, i don't care much for 3D either... lol
