You are correct, I was confusing you with what Rypt said.
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You are correct, I was confusing you with what Rypt said.
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So a PC is trying to be like a console because it has Fighting games?
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Ah, So because those genre of games have come to Console. That means the console, which uses a gamepad, not a keyboard and mouse. Is tryin to be a PC?
Its not, FPS games have been around on consoles for years, its not just now. And it works just fine, You seem quite troubled with playing them on consoles, and you seem to be looking at making problems where there are none, ie, Force feedback. Obviously you dont enjoy it, but why come up with bull and try and ridicule an obviously enjoyable form of gaming on console? Stop being so narrow minded!!
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PC's have always had fighting & platform games of one type or another it's true however that those types of games are better on the console and most were created for the console thats what consoles were good at now they're trying their hardest to make games that are better on the PC playable on the consoles and failing miserably!
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surely its personal opinion. You are all (most of you anyway) trying to convince the others that they are wrong and you are right. You should all be politicians!
I personally much prefer MK but i can see why some prefer a controller. For me the appeal of a console is the location (lounge) and the fact more of my friends have them.
Regardless of the I/O method i dont think the multiplayer experience of a console comes close the that of a PC and wont for many years. But if/when it does i'll happily switchover.
Use the method that you prefer and be happy about it.
The article and thread make a valid point - the two methods cannot compete on an even playing field as M/K has big advantages for accuracy and speed. I would like to see them try using this constructively rather than dismissing it e.g. in an FPS a console player can be certain classes (Sniper, Pilot/Driver) while PC players play as others (Assault, Scout). This would even out the playing field and also increase coolaboration between the 2 platforms.
Time for some KFC me thinks.
I personally much prefer MK but i can see why some prefer a controller. For me the appeal of a console is the location (lounge) and the fact more of my friends have them.
Regardless of the I/O method i dont think the multiplayer experience of a console comes close the that of a PC and wont for many years. But if/when it does i'll happily switchover.
Use the method that you prefer and be happy about it.
The article and thread make a valid point - the two methods cannot compete on an even playing field as M/K has big advantages for accuracy and speed. I would like to see them try using this constructively rather than dismissing it e.g. in an FPS a console player can be certain classes (Sniper, Pilot/Driver) while PC players play as others (Assault, Scout). This would even out the playing field and also increase coolaboration between the 2 platforms.
Time for some KFC me thinks.
I've played PC games for many years, so I'm not trying to convince him of anything. I'm just trying to understand why he has so much hatred for consoles.
Interesting thread. Not sure what to add to it other than that I will never really play FPS on a console if it exists on a PC as I find mouse and keyboard much more accurate to use. I wouldn't say "easier" really. If anything it's harder to learn the mapped keys on a keyboard, but in terms of purely AIM, then a mouse for me is so controllable and accurate. Analogue sticks for aiming feel clunky, slow and unatural. Aimbot/autoaim/locking on any platform in my opinion really detracts from the fun. I'm surprised console gaming has taken off so much with controllers. I don't dislike people that play console FPS like Moden Warfare or anything, but I do find it funny when I reply "no I prefer to play that on PC" and they laugh and call me a geek and that controller is so much "better". I guess it's just that they don't know anything else to compare to really. Sometimes it's best to just let them continue enjoying gaming, than to dwell on the past and what PC gaming has done for FPS. It's not really the fault of people to not care for the past and how PCs have shaped FPS and have a whole history of decades of mouse/keyboard gaming. They just don't know about it, as have generally had access to a console only. There are many obvious reasons for this but the main one is that a console is a few hundred quid and lasts for years requiring no upgrades and/or configuration to run games properly.
As for cross platform gaming. Personally I would only welcome it. I don't think different hardware control accessories should be considered advantageous. Rather, an alternative.
At the end of the day it's all about profitability and successful business modelling as said already. This unfortunately really is killing PC gaming, but I don't think it will completely die out as a gaming platform....possibly ever. Will have to see if anyone ever develops a real "hybrid" PC style console with mouse and keyboard. The question then though, is when does a console become limited to a console. What defines it? They are already performing "secondary" duties as is such as a media hub.
As for cross platform gaming. Personally I would only welcome it. I don't think different hardware control accessories should be considered advantageous. Rather, an alternative.
At the end of the day it's all about profitability and successful business modelling as said already. This unfortunately really is killing PC gaming, but I don't think it will completely die out as a gaming platform....possibly ever. Will have to see if anyone ever develops a real "hybrid" PC style console with mouse and keyboard. The question then though, is when does a console become limited to a console. What defines it? They are already performing "secondary" duties as is such as a media hub.
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That was what I'm trying to understand as well.
I was a PC Gamer for many years, and even on things like Amigas before that. These days I don't find the appeal of PC Gaming a lure, but while I choose Consoles over the PC now, I don't hate the PC.
A Person who is a pure PC Gamer might not like playing games on Consoles, but then is there really any need to spout pointless drivel about power, superior control methods, elite PC Gamers can beat the best Console gamers.... etc.
If you don't like Consoles, don't play them. I don't understand the need to think up reasons to berate them, getting yourself all hot and bothered if you don't play them.
It's the kind of rubbish that is very childish and I left in the playground years ago... but then I've got no idea how old some of these people who are talking some of this nonsense are; I would hope they are young!
At the end of the day, I'd define somebody as a proper gamer by the fact they play anything... why limit yourself to one platform? (Provided of course you can afford others).
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Well, it would have made a valid point if it wasn't for the existence of Shadowrun. Which sort of goes against what the original article is saying and actually worked reasonably well despite PC gamers being allowed Keyboard and Mouse.
A mouse is a positional based system, as real life shooting is. As far as I know, even "analogue" controller sticks are duration based when applied to shooting, ie, you hold the stick left and the aim moves left, then you release when the aim has landed where you desire. This is obviously slower. If it is indeed positional, then it's clearly far less accurate simply due to the amount of movement possible.
For driving games, conole controls work. For shooting, it just doesn't work IMO, very slow moving tactical shooters mabye. I love Quake 3 Excessive+ mod, to play this with a control pad would be frankly ridiculous.
For driving games, conole controls work. For shooting, it just doesn't work IMO, very slow moving tactical shooters mabye. I love Quake 3 Excessive+ mod, to play this with a control pad would be frankly ridiculous.
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Right, It would work fairly well if developers would balance the games out like that game was. Keyboard and mouse was crippled on that particular game. And thats why it was a level playing field. No doubt people who enjoy playing their video games on PC, would hate if MW2 had crippled mouse speeds inorder to allow for a balanced game with consoles.
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Because I prefer to play Game genres on the PC that were originally designed to be played on PC I'm bigoted and deluded you might want to check your logic there!
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I've checked his logic for you, and your view is certainly that of a bigot.
No it isn't I play consoles with games that were designed for them I use the console for the correct purpose console gaming. I play PC games on PC thats called pc gaming... and so far as I'm concerned playing PC games on consoles thats just foolish but to each their own!