Whats the advantage playing at a high resolution?

Its mostly about performance (high minimum fps), high refresh rate and not giving the other players an advantage over you. The norm will always be the lowest settings made available by the game developers (99.999% their responsibility, or server owners to block certain commands) and a general consensus about whats acceptable and whats not in the game's community. In a game like Arma were hiding behind bushes or lieing prone in grass is part of the gameplay then it matters more than a game like CSS, but if the setting is there in the games options then its your own fault if you put yourself at a disadvantage imo.

In css there are limits to how far you can turn the graphics settings and the game blocks anything below that. So you don't really gain anything except higher performance by turning settings down in that game now. Before there were some settings like lod that made certain parts of some maps have gaps from a distance that made it easier to spot players in certain position. Its pretty fair for all players now tho

Resolution is mostly about performance and preference. At higher resolution you might pick out some pixels more clearly as its less jagged but everything seems smaller too. You don't want your mouse to skip pixels too so lower the resolution the lower the DPI you can use with your sensitivity and lower the DPI the better the performance of the mouse (higher speed without it either hitting the malfunction speed or not moving consistently) and in a game like CSS you can get negative acceleration with higher DPI (with also lower resolution). A lot of professional gamers use very low sensitivities and low DPI (400) and fling the mouse at a very fast speed so they want the best performance from the mouse in the game. I use 1024:768 resolution @ 100hertz atm as it feels like a nice balance
 
Do I need your permission to have an opinion?

I wasn't saying you couldn't... I was just intrigued to as why you have such a strong one.

Do other people need your permission to run the settings that they do? You're just bitching about what other people do. ;)

The idea's you've put forward to having locked settings/standard PC configurations for games are impracticable and go against the principles of PC gaming. If you want everyone to play on a level playing field with the same hardware, it's only ever going to be possible on a console.
 
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I'd say it's cheating. However, if developers ensured that regardless of graphical settings certain things/areas were always opaque, or the same height or whatever then that would certainly level the playing field.

I like looking at nice graphics and it really annoys me to think there are so many people out there even on casual servers basically cheating by nailing me through a tree or bush or grass that isn't there for them.
 
Moot point, all high end pro gaming leagues use the organisers computers when money comes into play. I've been to a few so I know.
 
I'd say it's cheating. However, if developers ensured that regardless of graphical settings certain things/areas were always opaque, or the same height or whatever then that would certainly level the playing field.

I like looking at nice graphics and it really annoys me to think there are so many people out there even on casual servers basically cheating by nailing me through a tree or bush or grass that isn't there for them.

This is how I feel about it. I dont care what they do professionally, as they're not playing for fun, they're doing it for a living and everyone else they play against will be doing it. Whereas for the casual gamer on a public server i dont want to hide behind a tree that doesnt exist or use my smoke grenade to run for a flag only for it to be completely see through for someone else.

Looks like from the discussion here that it comes down to game developers taking out objects/details to increase fps, i doubt fairness comes into their thinking!
 
I wasn't saying you couldn't... I was just intrigued to as why you have such a strong one.

Because I don't see the point in playing a game in such a way, it takes all t he fun out of it.

Do other people need your permission to run the settings that they do? You're just bitching about what other people do. ;)

I didn't even come close to implying that. I said that it's pathetic, something that I think. They clearly don't think it's pathetic.

The ideas you've put forward to having locked settings/standard PC configurations for games are impracticable and go against the principles of PC gaming. If you want everyone to play on a level playing field with the same hardware, it's only ever going to be possible on a console.[/quote]
This is how it is:

Moot point, all high end pro gaming leagues use the organisers computers when money comes into play. I've been to a few so I know.

When people take their own PCs, it's not pro, it's amature and still lame.

It's essentially the same as performance enhancing drugs. Yeah, people are competing to win, but it still ruins it for everyone else because it's not really "you" winning.
 
I just remembered an example, I play ARMA2 a lot and have been for over a year now and never once, not once considered turning my brightness and gamma up for night time maps where people cannot use night vision.

But, the other day I heard about people who I play with and against doing it.
It never crossed my mind to do it because it's low, cheap and even if it is built in, it's basically cheating. I knew you could do it but the thought of doing it. No. Never.

But this is the difference between me and those kinds of players.
I'm honest and play on an even play field, they are not and don't.

But this is one scenario, other games of course not everyone can run on high graphics but brightness isn't a performance thing! :P


When people take their own PCs, it's not pro, it's amature and still lame.

It's essentially the same as performance enhancing drugs. Yeah, people are competing to win, but it still ruins it for everyone else because it's not really "you" winning.

I know it's not pro, but I agree with you it's lame.
Going out of your way to have an advantage over another player when you have no other reason than to have an advantage, is low. Agree?
 
I'd say it's cheating. However, if developers ensured that regardless of graphical settings certain things/areas were always opaque, or the same height or whatever then that would certainly level the playing field.

As far as I know it generally is.

Any examples of objects being actually removed? (Other than the Nvidia/smoke issue).

I know for a fact that console commands that remove objects in DoD/CS source are marked as sv_cheats 1.

The threads more about the reduction of settings for improved performance.

Moot point, all high end pro gaming leagues use the organisers computers when money comes into play. I've been to a few so I know.

Whilst true of some high end leagues, it's not true for all of them.

When people take their own PCs, it's not pro, it's amature and still lame.

:rolleyes:

It's essentially the same as performance enhancing drugs.

How is it? It's not banned in any way, and everyone can do it.

Yeah, people are competing to win, but it still ruins it for everyone else because it's not really "you" winning.

What? Changing these settings gives a performance edge, that's all. The player is still doing all of the work. If you can't shoot someone at 1920x you're not going to hit them any better at 800x.
 
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Well the choice is to either play within your own perceived (made up) rules about the game, or play the game within the rules presented by the game developers. If its in the options or allowed by the game then you have to play by those rules otherwise you're putting yourself at an disadvantage for no reason. In that case you have no right to complain about people playing the real game rather than with rules that are different for each
 
Settings that cause a massive advantage in most cases are blocked out (promod in cod4).

If there's a setting that increases visibility and performance, and is available to everyone, I see no reason not to use it. Using these settings isn't going to make you a whole lot better, in the same way that buying all the top hardware won't. At the end of the day you still need to put the gun on the target and shoot enough to kill him before he kills you.

Eye candy is for single player games and those that are casual and are just there for the experience. When you play competitively it's to win, and all the eye candy often lowers visibility and some of the effects can cause a performance loss.
 
The 800x600 thing is from Quake and Counter-Strike, iirc, where due to the engine it gave you the highest framerate.

it was due to the people beeing bigger on your screen so you could easily aim for a big head rather than a little one.


higher resolution = everything gets smaller on the screen.


a lot of servers started having a set config so everyone played with the same settings
 
As far as I know it generally is.

Any examples of objects being actually removed? (Other than the Nvidia/smoke issue).

I know for a fact that console commands that remove objects in DoD/CS source are marked as sv_cheats 1.

The threads more about the reduction of settings for improved performance.

I didn't mean players actively removing objects, just game engines doing that for people at lower detail levels.
 
These people need to get a life, taking gaming far to seriously and loosing the point of them being there in the first place, entertainment.
 
^ Would you say the same about sport?

Anyhow, some settings are giving you a disadvantage, like HDR in CS:S and thus it gets disabled.
 
These people need to get a life, taking gaming far to seriously and loosing the point of them being there in the first place, entertainment.

You realise playing competitively in a tournament environment is incredibly fun for some people right? Ever been to a LAN? They're an absolute blast.
 
I didn't mean players actively removing objects, just game engines doing that for people at lower detail levels.

That's what I said.

Can you mention examples of games that actually remove objects on lower detail levels?

These people need to get a life, taking gaming far to seriously and loosing the point of them being there in the first place, entertainment.

Difference between this or any other sport?
 
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