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Castiel said:
Why not? Add it to F22 Raptor then, the point being that it wouldn't be acceptable.

I understand better than you know, but I am not complaining about that exactly. More the decision to base the multiplayer in Central Helmand (not an generic environment based on Helmand) specifically and allow you to play the Taliban specifically (not simply some generic insurgent) to kill ISAF troops (not generic Allied troops).

From the allegations ( whether they are true or not I cannot say) theyu have recreated a battle scenario from the central helmand province without generic considerations, effectively recreating a war we are currently engaged in.

How can you not think that some people, those who have fought, died and lost people in helmand as recently as this week would not find it insensitive?
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Would you have objected if the opposing team had been called something else other than Taliban. I'm guessing no because the media would not have jumped all over the game otherwise and it would have passed under the noses who do not play games and yet are now offended by this.

Of course, some soldiers may feel this is insensitive but I bet there are also soldiers who don't really care realising the fact that this is a game and you're shooting at polygons.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Taliban is a generic term already, it is not a specific group of people.

It is a generic soldier fighting a generic insurgent in a generic back ground.

It is no different to a load of cop and robber games. With generic cops fighting generic robbers in a American city background.


Why would a flight sim that is all about flogging have a specific mission in.

How about certain swat games where you take out terrorists similar situations to many hijacks/hostage situations are they bad and evil.
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To me the Taliban are a specific wahhabi jihadist political group rather than a generic term for an insurgency, but then I have some personal experience.

Like I said I am not offended myself. I can see why others would see some justification to complain however.


AcidHell2 said:
Or is it that people just enjoy playing these games, just like the complainers like reading the books and watching the film.
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Serial killers enjoy murdering people doesn't make it right though.:p
 
OriginalJonty said:
Would you have objected if the opposing team had been called something else other than Taliban. I'm guessing no because the media would not have jumped all over the game otherwise and it would have passed under the noses who do not play games and yet are now offended by this.

Of course, some soldiers may feel this is insensitive but I bet there are also soldiers who don't really care realising the fact that this is a game and you're shooting at polygons.
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I expect you are correct. And I am not obecting per se, just pointing out that it can be construed as being insensitive and those, including the Def Sec have some justification if it is indeed a recreation of Hemand.
 
Castiel said:
I expect you are correct. And I am not obecting per se, just pointing out that it can be construed as being insensitive and those, including the Def Sec have some justification if it is indeed a recreation of Hemand.
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The Def Sec should be worrying more about protecting actual soldiers in the battlefield than a computer game he will most likely never play.
 
Castiel said:
To me the Taliban are a specific wahhabi jihadist political group rather than a generic term for an insurgency, but then I have some personal experience.
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Taliban is now a generic term for anyone fighting the allies in Afghanistan. Regardless of there origin or views.

Oh I can see how people can be offended, but then people can be offended by anything, especially rubbish media reports and something they know nothing about. But just because people can be offended does not give any reason for censorship or political point scoring.

It is just like television complaints. They receive about 3 complaints within 72 hours of a tv show. Then media does a report and they get another 30,000 complaints. Now why didn't these people complain in straight after the show. Or did they not watch it, were not offended and are following mob mentality.
 
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What a fuss over nothing. As has been said, you can play as the 'bad guys' in any number of games and it's been done to death for years. Silly media.

As an example, does anyone remember the Global Liberation Army in C&C Generals? That entire side was based on playing as a terrorist. Just look at some of their units.


Yet it was just another game where you could play as the bad guys. Nothing sinister about it.
 
Dunks said:
Well, if publicity is what they were after...
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I very much doubt that, they could done it in a thousand better ways to get media attention. Rather than a simple Multiplayer addon, where you need both sides.

Just people jumping on a bandwagon and have no idea what the game entails or based on.
 
This threads annoying me a little bit

It's a frickin game, the MP element is not recreating any 'scenes' from the current war, there is a level that is aptly named 'Helmland' no doubt, yet funnily enough probably has no real element about the actual area itself.

You do not play the MP element on this map with the objective of recreating an attack from the war that is going on right now...You have TWO sides, you either kill eachother...(RANDOMLY!!! Shock horror) or get a bleeding flag...Do we do this over i Afghan now as well? Steal the enemies flag and declare victory?

I hate media, media sucks, all it does is cause arguments and ruin things
 
I bet there are a load of Afghanis complaining about "OMG you get to play British and kill us, how tactless!"

As far as I'm concerned Liam Fox is an idiot - if you support a pointless war, which has led to the death of many people, but complain about a video game which hasn't, you are a disgrace.
 
Castiel said:
Can you guarantee that. Having served in Afghanistan I think it is a little insensitive, although if as people have said that playing the Taliban means you cannot kill anyone :confused:, I suppose it's ok.
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So the same can be said for the last few survivors of WWII isn't it insensitive to them being able to play as Nazis in some games?
 
In Afghanistan WE are the terrorists.
I was actually quite tempted to go fight for the taliban against our troops, considering it was an illegal war and all.

Just because a character is British on a computer game doesn't mean he has more rights not to be killed than taliban. What difference does it make you are still KILLING a man. Defence secretary is as brainwashed as OP.

Joke of a Govt.
 
plasmahal said:
The point is, he was using terrorist tactics to fight the cause he believed in.

Whether you believe the cause to be right or wrong, people fight for what the believe in.
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Thats why some are called terrorists (wrong) and some are called (freedom fighters) rights and the ones in between are called (activists)
 
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