I'm sick of foreign people

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TangoSixteen said:
Easy.

Any immigrant without a social security number gets held in prison before being sent home.

Anyone arriving without a visa gets sent back on the first plane and isnt allowed to leave the airport.

Any immigrant who commits any crime, get sent back, and not fed and watered in jail at OUR expense.

No benefits for immigrants.

No social housing for immigrants.

Immigrants should pay more tax that British people.

Immigrants should be made to pay for the NHS until they have paid tax for 5 years or more.

Immigrants who bring family over illegally get sent back.

Any immigrants who fail in any of the above get deported.

Burkhas and mosques get banned.

Anyone who cant speak English get sent back

Asylum seekers are no longer allowed. - They get sent back.

Lorries with immigrants on board get refused entry into the UK, until the immigrants are sent back.
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Geezus even Nick Griffen isnt as bad as you :/
 
Move into a shack in northern scotland then?

If theyre working and paying tax theyve got exactly the same right to be there as you, living in England all your life doesnt make a difference, England has been an immigrant country since the begining of time.
 
I am talking about utilising humanism as a thought provoking concept to remove or dampen bigotry and prejudice at an individual level.
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i really dont think you can do that however. a frontal labotomy could do what you want, but that doesnt leave much else either unfortunately.

you just want people to feel good about other people. i understand that but things like descrimination, prejudice (in a positive or negative light) will always occur. the brain descriminates, what is hot, what is cold? what is good? what is bad.

it is the way we work.

you just want to stop us from using it in ways that you deem negative - but the brain does not work on demand in that way:/

If theyre working and paying tax theyve got exactly the same right to be there as you, living in England all your life doesnt make a difference, England has been an immigrant country since the begining of time.
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not true... say you just came over from <insert your least fave country here> should you be entitled to FREE NHS, benefits, etc that you have not funded but will immediately detract from everyone else's wealth by diluting the service to use it?

Maybe if you included a clause like: If you have worked in the UK for 3 years or have made xxx national insurance contribution, you are eligible for free NHS, otherwise its private health care/insurance only.

that would be a MUCH fairer way to those who have already contributed would it not?

England has been an immigrant country since the begining of time.
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whilst that is true, it is also true that your parents, or my parents who have been here for 50+ years with that amount of tax contribution has contributed more to this country and therefore is more deserving of its benefits and NHS system, than someone who has just 'joined the party' and dilutes the funding before contributing anything?
 
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TangoSixteen said:
The UK sucks these days.

Jam packed with damn immigrants

high crime

violence
a ridiculous socialist state
crap roads
incompetant MP's
your not even allowed to have guns
prisoners get playstations and criminals get free houses
Economy is wrecked
most English cities are overrun with illegals, i.e Birmingham, Leicster etc *Shudders*

To put it simply, its a total carphole of the highest order.

I cannot wait to move all my assets offshore and setup in a new place like NZ or Canada. Bliss!
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Havn't you emigrated yet?

Bloody immigrants.:D
 
Sawell said:
The day humanity lives in harmony is the day that people stop segregating themselves into sub-societies and blindly following those societies like they are ingrained in their DNA.

You're not English, you're human. Sure, you were born geographically on a lump of land which belongs to a government and as such you were processed by that government as a member of their society. It's nice, it feels friendly, it doesn't feel like you're just another headcount towards the mechanics of mass organisation, granted. But you are. Your social liberties, your leaps and bounds that you have over other countries are not because you're a great member of that society, it's just so that you can pay your way out of the debt that you owe that society through work, taxes, retail purchases, tourism and input. You're just a packaged investment like the others born every minute in the UK.

You're lucky. You're probably a white male with good British heritage. You're a tiny proportion of a global population, and you have lucked out. You started with no handicap in life, no back footing. You were born at the front of the queue, pretty much as close to the front as you can get, relatively speaking.

And so what now, you think that your social liberty (via luck no less) entitles you to some kind of casual bigotry over people in this world who are trying to share a slice of what you take for granted? Because these freedoms come too easily to you, others should take a back seat and accept a lesser or different way of living?

After all, it's not like the massive narrow-minded nature of blind following is the fuel for most conflict in this world.

That was sarcasm, by the way.

Imagine if we lived in a world where you didn't judge someone for being on a different street to you, or a football team for being different to yours, or a southerner for not being from the north, or a country for not speaking or acting as yours does. Will it take a band of aliens destroying the world to finally realise that our stupid little societies are different versions of the same thing, all living for the same reason and enjoying the same life that they try to extract as much happiness as possible from? You're a person, others are different, no two are the same, but that's the beauty of it.
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Idealistic and unnatural.

Survival of the fittest combined with finite resources means that there will always be groups. There will never be a harmony between all humans, as greed is a evolutionary trait built into us designed to get our genes passed along to the next generation. It is ingrained in our DNA, why do people have different colour skin in the first place if it wasn't changes in the DNA. Different subgroups of humans evolved in very slightly different ways.

Until we evolve to beyond greed, love, jealously and most emotions, that will never happen. We would have to lose what it is to be human to turn in to the Star Trek federation style world you are looking for.
 
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Sawell said:
The day humanity lives in harmony is the day that people stop segregating themselves into sub-societies and blindly following those societies like they are ingrained in their DNA.

You're not English, you're human. Sure, you were born geographically on a lump of land which belongs to a government and as such you were processed by that government as a member of their society. It's nice, it feels friendly, it doesn't feel like you're just another headcount towards the mechanics of mass organisation, granted. But you are. Your social liberties, your leaps and bounds that you have over other countries are not because you're a great member of that society, it's just so that you can pay your way out of the debt that you owe that society through work, taxes, retail purchases, tourism and input. You're just a packaged investment like the others born every minute in the UK.

You're lucky. You're probably a white male with good British heritage. You're a tiny proportion of a global population, and you have lucked out. You started with no handicap in life, no back footing. You were born at the front of the queue, pretty much as close to the front as you can get, relatively speaking.

And so what now, you think that your social liberty (via luck no less) entitles you to some kind of casual bigotry over people in this world who are trying to share a slice of what you take for granted? Because these freedoms come too easily to you, others should take a back seat and accept a lesser or different way of living?

After all, it's not like the massive narrow-minded nature of blind following is the fuel for most conflict in this world.

That was sarcasm, by the way.

Imagine if we lived in a world where you didn't judge someone for being on a different street to you, or a football team for being different to yours, or a southerner for not being from the north, or a country for not speaking or acting as yours does. Will it take a band of aliens destroying the world to finally realise that our stupid little societies are different versions of the same thing, all living for the same reason and enjoying the same life that they try to extract as much happiness as possible from? You're a person, others are different, no two are the same, but that's the beauty of it.
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Full quote for what I think is possibly one of the best posts I have ever seen on these boards.
 
TangoSixteen said:
I cannot wait to move all my assets offshore and setup in a new place like NZ or Canada. Bliss!
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Please for the love of god i hope Canada doesnt accept you as you would be a filthy immigrant too;)...plus with your views the Canadians wouldnt take too kindly to you either and lets add to that mix that there are a lot of immigrants in Canada too.

How do i know this?? i know this because ive just spent 3 weeks with my brother from Canada who came here to visit and informed me of the problems Canada has with immigrants...plus coupled with the fact that im always in Canada every few mths or so.
 
it is true though, if you go to spain the only places you will find english languaged leaflets in a bank or something is if you are in a specific tourist area or something.

unless we are accepting that we are a tourist type destination but for foreign speaking immigrants then what we are doing is bad practice really.
 
Nickg said:
not true... say you just came over from <insert your least fave country here> should you be entitled to FREE NHS, benefits, etc that you have not funded but will immediately detract from everyone else's wealth by diluting the service to use it?

Maybe if you included a clause like: If you have worked in the UK for 3 years or have made xxx national insurance contribution, you are eligible for free NHS, otherwise its private health care/insurance only.

that would be a MUCH fairer way to those who have already contributed would it not?
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Children haven't funded the NHS either... and just to head you off at the pass, children of ***** chav benefit wonders also haven't funded it.
 
Spawn said:
Please for the love of god i hope Canada doesnt accept you as you would be a filthy immigrant too;)...plus with your views the Canadians wouldnt take too kindly to you either and lets add to that mix that there are a lot of immigrants in Canada too.

How do i know this?? i know this because ive just spent 3 weeks with my brother from Canada who came here to visit and informed me of the problems Canada has with immigrants...plus coupled with the fact that im always in Canada every few mths or so.
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I'd **** on Avril Lavignes face, shes so hot.

Would be able to speak French no problem, so could fit in pretty quick.

Plus I would get a pick up and a gun, so would be good to go!
 
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