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'Wes · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:26

Martini1991 said:
Which is why the 5850 should drop to 150 quid.
The GTX460 is the better buy at the moment.

I agree.

RavenXXX2 · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:27

straxusii said:
£150 for a 5850, you boys are nuts

£175 it should be and the 5870 should be £250

When you take in to account driver support the 460 is worth at least another £30 over the 5850 so £150 is about right.

Martini1991 · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:27

TRD, you don't need to agree.
But why is it ok at 200+? That's more than it was when it launched... Still..
At a push, 170 perhaps.

straxusii · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:29

RavenXXX2 said:
When you take in to account driver support the 460 is worth at least another £30 over the 5850 so £150 is about right.

No chance! ATI driver support is absolutely fine if you arent doing CF, sure the high idle clocks on overclock bug is bloody annoying but it isnt like you get more single GPU problems with ATI drivers than Nvidia.

I agree ATI need to be higher performing than Nvidia at the same price point which is why I think £175 for 5850 compared to £170 for 460 1GB is fine as the 5850 is ~10% faster

straxusii · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:31

And I think there can be only one reason why ATI havent dropped the 5850/5870 to £175/£250 and that is because they are selling fine I guess.

An Exception · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:33

^^^
It's ok at £200 because if the price was £170 they wouldn't sell any more units than at £200 due to being supply constrained.

Martini1991 · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:34

straxusii said:
And I think there can be only one reason why ATI havent dropped the 5850/5870 to £175/£250 and that is because they are selling fine I guess.

Or they've become complacement.

An Exception · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:36

Martini1991 said:
Or they've become complacement.

Ejizz said:
^^^
It's ok at £200 because if the price was £170 they wouldn't sell any more units than at £200 due to being supply constrained.

RavenXXX2 · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:36

TBH the 5870 is a real bad buy at current prices, I mean if I wasn't such as sucker for the best tech I would have bought a 5850 on launch, the 5870 is not significantly different to a 5850 to warrant even a £40 difference in price, It's the same card apart from 160 shaders that make marginal difference in performance.

TheRealDeal · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:38

Martini1991 said:
TRD, you don't need to agree.
But why is it ok at 200+? That's more than it was when it launched... Still..
At a push, 170 perhaps.

Its basically like saying if you had a business and you were manufacturing say 1000 cards a month. You were able to sell your whole 1000 cards for £100 each and make £100,000 each month. So why would you then drop your cards to £75 and only make £75000 per month when you are selling all your cards in the first place. If amd start struggling to get rid of the 5850 cores then we may see a price drop but as it stands business for them seems to be going good.

You have to remember its also the partners and the retailers that dictate price also.

Martini1991 · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:38

I paid 200 for my 5850 and 300 for my 5870 respectively lol.
Prices are anything but lower.

straxusii · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:38

Martini1991 said:
Or they've become complacement.

Yep always a possibility, and having been bought out it is more likely than normal. I doubt it though, for the first time for a long time they have been on top and I doubt they would easily let that go.

An Exception · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:38

Latest rumours are Ati plan on decreasing the cost of their new gen cards but only if TSMC supply can match or exceed demand.

Martini1991 · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:39

straxusii said:
Yep always a possibility, and having been bought out it is more likely than normal. I doubt it though, for the first time for a long time they have been on top and I doubt they would easily let that go.

If that was the case they could seize more ground having competition to the GTX460 at the price, they don't.

An Exception · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:39

straxusii said:
Yep always a possibility, and having been bought out it is more likely than normal. I doubt it though, for the first time for a long time they have been on top and I doubt they would easily let that go.

Ejizz said:
^^^
It's ok at £200 because if the price was £170 they wouldn't sell any more units than at £200 due to being supply constrained.

Martini1991 · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:40

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=56&subid=411
How is the supply remotely strained?

EDIT : 260 for a vapourX? Yes please.. =/

An Exception · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:41

Martini1991 said:
If that was the case they could seize more ground having competition to the GTX460 at the price, they don't.

No they couldn't, they don't have enough cards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

straxusii · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:41

RavenXXX2 said:
TBH the 5870 is a real bad buy at current prices

I completely agree, the 480 is pretty bad also.

When you can buy a 470 for £225 why on earth would you spend £290 to get +~8% performance or £350 to get +~25% performance.

Martini1991 · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:41

Ejizz said:
No they couldn't, they don't have enough cards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you a troll on purpose?

Martini1991 · 2 Sep 2010 at 16:42

Best price/performance is GTX460, and then SLI it.
That can be done for 300-320 quid