Yep and has happened a few times now, it really is a big problem with schools.
Guy becoming teacher - used to be teaching assistant and was accused...
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Yep and has happened a few times now, it really is a big problem with schools.
This is exactly the reason why anonymity needs to be given to the accused, not just the 'victim'. The fallout of such heinous accusations is severe and the accused needs to be protected from that until (if they are) proved guilty.
A teacher at my secondary school touched up my girlfriend on the bus when she was en route to visit me. He was charged and subsequently convicted of lewd and libidinous behaviour, placed on the sex offenders register for 5 years, and a custodial sentence was considered but ultimately placed on probahation for 2 years. Also removed from the register of teachers for Scotland. I obviously knew who the accused was, and there were stories that went around the school though it was (rightfully so) kept very quiet. I too kept quiet, as it wasn't my place to determine if he was or wasn't guilty. I was a witness in the case, and answered the Court truthfully. After he was convicted, the full details weren't revealed and my girlfriends name was kept out of it.
These things do happen, but the accused shouldn't be thrust into the public eye until he (or indeed she!) is proven guilty.
A teacher at my secondary school touched up my girlfriend on the bus when she was en route to visit me. He was charged and subsequently convicted of lewd and libidinous behaviour, placed on the sex offenders register for 5 years, and a custodial sentence was considered but ultimately placed on probahation for 2 years. Also removed from the register of teachers for Scotland. I obviously knew who the accused was, and there were stories that went around the school though it was (rightfully so) kept very quiet. I too kept quiet, as it wasn't my place to determine if he was or wasn't guilty. I was a witness in the case, and answered the Court truthfully. After he was convicted, the full details weren't revealed and my girlfriends name was kept out of it.
These things do happen, but the accused shouldn't be thrust into the public eye until he (or indeed she!) is proven guilty.
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The OP is one of the many things wrong in the world today.
"Some whiny schoolgirls said some stuff, do you think I should pursue ruining this mans life?"
There's no evidence, the matter was never investigated (I wonder why?
), it doesn't have much to do with you. Sounds like children's nonsense and gossip...
Fair enough, if there was solid evidence and no doubt that he did it. Gather a lynch mob and light the torches. In this situation though... Don't.
"Some whiny schoolgirls said some stuff, do you think I should pursue ruining this mans life?"
There's no evidence, the matter was never investigated (I wonder why?
), it doesn't have much to do with you. Sounds like children's nonsense and gossip... Fair enough, if there was solid evidence and no doubt that he did it. Gather a lynch mob and light the torches. In this situation though... Don't.
If there is a direct concern about this person then that concern needs to come from someone who was directly and actively involved or an advocate for that person. As you are effectively neither I would suggest you don't go and destroy someone's life unnecessarily and suggest to the people who believe they were actively involved to instigate things themselves. If they feel unable to do so and ask you to advocate for them then that is a different matter and you should aid them as you can. But barring that then really you are opening yourself up for a big dose of karma.
It's these sort of things that hardly any males go into teaching. Was almost equal decades ago but now its 12.5% are male teachers. It's the case a guy goes to uni do a teaching degree and wants to be a primary school teacher (or secondary) he be looked at funny.
Its the paranoia that the UK has come to about male teachers.
Its the paranoia that the UK has come to about male teachers.
Sounds like he is womenfolk.
OP - Imagine he was falsely accused and then put yourself in his shoes.
It's absolutely none of your business and going to governers etc just makes you an old woman busybody. You weren't even there so all you know about it is hearsay and if he found out that you'd been trying to scupper his career plans then he is fully within his rights to take you to court or at the very least give you a sound beating.
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I'd sooner kill myself than be a teacher. I can't imagine it being very fun nowadays with kids who "know their rights" and how to manipulate the system.
It wasn't great back when I was at school, but you'd still be given into trouble if you stepped out of line. Nowadays, any teacher trying to discipline the class would probably be front page as the latest nonce to be outed.
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It wasn't great back when I was at school, but you'd still be given into trouble if you stepped out of line. Nowadays, any teacher trying to discipline the class would probably be front page as the latest nonce to be outed.
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well the old teacher is friends with the person on fb so obviously believes he aint a wrong'un.
if your mrs really wants to know more then she could ask the other teacher more about the guy.
i find it very odd that the police would not be involved. in fact i dont believe this sort of thing would happen without a parent going to the police. If this was my child it would be the first call i made.
if your mrs really wants to know more then she could ask the other teacher more about the guy.
i find it very odd that the police would not be involved. in fact i dont believe this sort of thing would happen without a parent going to the police. If this was my child it would be the first call i made.
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I haven't read most of the thread past post 60ish, not terribly interested tbh, have the info I need.
But lots of people seem to be spouting about "hormonal teenage girls".
There were at least three girls who directly accused him, all of them were between 8 and 9, in a rather posh area in a very good and small school.
And other people also *saw* things, teachers, other pupils etc. Nothing enough on their own, but certainly significant all put together.
Anyway, I am not personally doing anything, but a parent who was involved at the time has been informed (again, not by me) and it's up to them to ascertain whether it was true or made up/what any investigation decided.
I don't know all the facts, but what I have been told is from my gf who was distrought and has no reason to lie. The people who know what happened will make the decision, not me.
But lots of people seem to be spouting about "hormonal teenage girls".
There were at least three girls who directly accused him, all of them were between 8 and 9, in a rather posh area in a very good and small school.
And other people also *saw* things, teachers, other pupils etc. Nothing enough on their own, but certainly significant all put together.
Anyway, I am not personally doing anything, but a parent who was involved at the time has been informed (again, not by me) and it's up to them to ascertain whether it was true or made up/what any investigation decided.
I don't know all the facts, but what I have been told is from my gf who was distrought and has no reason to lie. The people who know what happened will make the decision, not me.
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Up to the parent? No, it's not up to the parent, unless I misunderstand you.
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(not talking about this case, talking in general)
When it's a case of protecting others I think you would be surprised, if it was on it's own and could be laid to rest then fair do's many people would just want to leave it. But when it's a case of protecting others, things start to change.
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The parent would know the result of any inquiry/cover up and whether the daughter had since recinded her story.
Because it affected close family friends and the guy was there when she was and is (IF it is true, which she believes) worried for the future..
I'm not a woman shrink, I don't know how their minds works.