Ever thought of comiting suicde?

No suicide but everyone does this surely, when you're up somewhere high like the top of a highrise like this:

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And you look over the edge and wonder "I wonder what it would feel like to cut through the air!".

Obviously you'd never do it but you do wonder!
 
I can't understand why people turn to suicide BEFORE they have tried .. for example, Moving to New Zealand (or Thailand, or Canada, or or or), never contacting anyone you previously knew, knocking on doors (initially) asking for manual work, and just starting completely afresh.


I mean - why not? It wouldn't even be difficult to do .. if you can't fund it, do crime (even just shoplifting then ebaying) to get the money together - who cares, right?
 
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Khaaan! said:
No suicide but everyone does this surely, when you're up somewhere high like the top of a highrise like this:

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And you look over the edge and wonder "I wonder what it would feel like to cut through the air!".

Obviously you'd never do it but you do wonder!
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[Conjecture]

I think that's Thanatos. Greek god, possibly of death, in psychological terms the classification for natural self-destructive tendencies, a proclivity to engage in harmful, risky past-times and the temptation to take the more dangerous course. It's why you can't help but poke a wobbly tooth with your tongue, why you get that strange urge to throw yourself off high places, why people have (as previously mentioned) fantasies about suicide, and some psychologists believe it's a big contributor to the allure of drugs, both legal and illegal. There's a corresponding term, Eros I think, that could just be related without being a counterpart.

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Edit: Seems I've got Wikipedia on my side, a trusty comrade in the gloomy realms of approximate debate. They also named a euthanasia machine after the concept, and Thanatos wasn't a god, he was a Daemon (note apocalyptic "daemon" spelling, so much more infernal than the lesser "demon")
 
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Not seriously, but thought about it sure. I spent half my life in counselling, had circumstances been different and I hadn't had the help then who knows. Talking helps, but not here.

Also would like to point out that I'm not of the senseless and idiotic mentality that belittling and insulting people on the verge of taking their own lives is a smart or clever move like some of the tools in this thread.

Go inflate your self-perception elsewhere, narrow-minded idiots. You can't begin to comprehend the motive or complex emotion that results in a train of thought leading to self destruction, and assuming judgement makes you more of a fool than anyone you could ever try to label.
 
It's not all that easy to get out of a depressive spiral, but it's more than possible, and I think people should always look to get help before they can't go back.

It's not weak, it's not selfish, and yet it is weak and it is selfish. It's a hard position to explain, and an impossible position to empathise with. Belittling people comes so easily, and yet if you stopped to think about it, it might just be that that drives people over the edge.
 
Thoughts of suicide during life are normal. Evidently from the response of this thread. Therapy helps, perspective is a funny thing. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.

One thing.. never self-diagnose mental conditions. It doesn't work that way.
 
yes. about 2 years ago i convinced myself i'd caught the worst form of STI you can have (i'm hetrosexual btw) i would spend hours on the net at home (and work) looking at the symptoms and i literally convinced myself i had it, all through watching an article on the local news about the rise in cases. i was sleeping with a girl at the time and had also convinced myself i'd passed it onto her.i would talk to god in my head, saying how i would change my ways if i got another chance, i lost lots of sleep and really could see no way out but to end my life if the test came back positive and had thought how to go about it and what message i would have left to loved ones. took me a long time to pluck up the courage to take the test and i was a complete wreck waiting for my results to come back (i would literally go pale everytime my mobile rang and i didn't recognise the number) but the call never came, i rang them and the tests were negative. it was the worst few weeks of my life, i see myself as quite a headstrong person but that experience really took hold of me and if i had not been negative, i would have ended my life, i have no doubt over that. i have never felt so relieved in my life to recieve such results. when i thought it through after, i realised i had lost my senses and that's what had happened, i had convinced myself i had something (with good reason, i hadn't exactly been careful) but something like that can really mess with a mans head and it did mine for what was an extremely dark period in my life, all be it only a few weeks but it was awful.
 
I think every man thinks about suicide in a sort of idle "What would happen if I killed myself? Who would care? What would my funeral would be like?" etc etc and other macabre thoughts.

Seriously considering it, on the other hand, is a sign of depression and should be looked into.
 
Khaaan! said:
No suicide but everyone does this surely, when you're up somewhere high like the top of a highrise like this:



And you look over the edge and wonder "I wonder what it would feel like to cut through the air!".

Obviously you'd never do it but you do wonder![/QUOTE]
You could always take up sky diving? ;)
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Sawell said:
Well said - claps.
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Guess we’ll always be faced with challenges in life and some deal with this better then others. Depression is something that can hit anyone. Serious depression can have serious consequences, sometimes detrimental and to the point of committing self destruction.

I’ve been depressed in my life, seen my fair share of therapy. Seems the natural order of life is for the strong to pick on the weak and belittle, as so often can be seen not just on this forum, but more likely in the family and at work. School, or adolescence are the most dangerous years many of us face. We’re young and impressionable, and we’re very eager to make it a life, however we get that one knock or something goes wrong in, be this a relationship or family matter and, well that’s it. The deep spiral into the darkest reaches of depression, and meditation on thoughts of ending a wonderful life creep in.

I must admit, I’ve often thought when driving to work what is would be like to just keep driving and not turn back. Just drive until I can’t afford the fuel anymore and start a new life elsewhere. However, despite the lack of attention I got in my teenage years, and the bullying I’ve been subjected to as I’m a nervous guy and suffer frequent panic attacks… I’ve taken my medication when needed, used my counselling to face the fight or flight, and not once felt like I should end it all.

However, if anyone close to me ever confided in me about thoughts of ending their life, I’d hope I was strong enough to help them. How, at this time I don’t know, you can’t fix anyone, but you can at least be there for them.

We’re a complex race, however I’ve always wondered just what is the trigger for most suicides. Illness as mentioned in this thread is, I feel not suicide in the same right. That isn’t selfish, its maybe a pre cognitive thought of you simply know your time is up. Some, as mentioned don’t want to burden loved ones or themselves with what will inevitably happen to them… Of cause this opens up the debate for voluntary euthanasia – but that’s for another day.

Anyone here who feels like ending it all, or have in the past and got through this… They are perhaps stronger then the ones that mock or call them selfish. This is all opinion and in no way intended to offend anyone.
 
RDM said:
This is exactly why my uncle commited suicide. He had an incurable tumor that would lead to a particular form of dementia. As he was a radiologist he knew exactly what was in store for him, but more importantly, exactly what was in store for his family. He had no desire to burdern them with what he would become. He didn't want them to have to spend so much of their lives looking after him.

So suicide isn't always done for selfish reasons.
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perfect example there. people call suicide the easy way out and selfish but what your uncle did was completely selfless. he was a brave guy and saved his close family from some of the worst months they would ever have to experience. i witnessed my gran go through months of operations and treatment and then someone who wasnt my gran in mind anymore go through months of dieing and all we could do was watch. would never wish it upon anyone.
 
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