My new car. Mazda 3 MPS

What has knowing what an LSD does got to do with knowing whether a car has an LSD or not. If you read my posts, you'll read why I came to the conclusion I did.
 
You seemed convinced that the prefacelift MPS was 'rubbish' and that its lack of LSD was to blame.

Now we find out it had an LSD all along - I still maintain I doubt it was rubbish. It seems you didnt even bother to drive one before buying that Focus anyway.

I should have realised really, as fact isn't your strong point.
 
I never said the lack of LSD was to blame, I said it was one of the points. When Mazda themselves who probably could have sourced one and made some money out of me told me I wouldn't buy it if I'd already tested the ST, then that tells me all I need to know about it :)
 
By Mazda themselves you really mean an employee of a private company with a Mazda franchise. That's not Mazda themselves, the average salesman knows little about cars. If the word of a salesman who did not have one in stock to show you is what you based your opinion of the car on your posts are even more amusing than first thought!
 
I detest the bonnet scoop on these. Used to walk past a Mazda dealer going to my GF's and he used to have 3 of these right at the front waiting to suck me in through that thing.

If it didn't have that then I would like it even more. The interior is really nice though, good purchase. :)
 
[TW]Fox;17411225 said:
By Mazda themselves you really mean an employee of a private company with a Mazda franchise. That's not Mazda themselves, the average salesman knows little about cars. If the word of a salesman who did not have one in stock to show you is what you based your opinion of the car on your posts are even more amusing than first thought!
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Actually, I had quite a discussion with him about it. He had owned an ST before he came to work for Mazda and then sold it for an MPS company car shortly after he joined, eventually changing to an RX8 which he had at the time we spoke.

:)
 
No idea, I didn't ask, but the salesman that I dealt with at our local Hartwell dealer had a 'company car' but it was technically just a demo he took home apparently - he claimed he didn't pay any company car tax.
 
I'm not one for hot hatches but that..... is really, really nice. It looks the business and the interior actually looks like a nice place to be. Plenty of kit too. I'd take that mps over a Focus ST any day of the week.
I would have to put a sticker over the display that says Zoom-Zoom though.

Enjoy it.
 
I think I stirred up the hornets nest by mentioning the LSD on the mk1!

Before I got my LCR I considered the Focus ST and the 3 MPS. I only test drove the MPS in the end though as I found out how much the ST drunk and I didnt really like the interior, although my Leon isn't exactly great (but I got it really cheap). The MPS did feel lovely and smooth and had a ton of gadgets, it just seemed too long to me looks wise, I hope the new one doesn't look as long in the flesh/metal.
 
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I'm not disputing that an LSD wouldnt improve things. It quite obviously would and is a welcome addition.

It would not, in isolation, turn a rubbish car into a brilliant one.
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What's your point? The LSD will make a massive difference. If your coming out of a corner, put your boot down and all you get is wheel spin and torque steer under load it would make it terrible for driving fast around corners, adding the LSD removes a lot of this making it fantastic. Drive a car with an LSD, then drive one without.

As a BMW nut it's obvious they are pretty poor for drifting until you weld the diff up, it transforms it quite literally.

Nice purchase, my friend had one for a while and I enjoyed the test drive, he got rid due to the cost of fuel and car tax. Enjoy it :)
 
[TW]Fox;17416104 said:
It already has an LSD anyway, so the point is irrelevent.

An LSD in isolation doesn't turn a crap car into an amazing car. There is more to a car than how it puts its power down out of a corner.
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Are you going on what Wiki says or have you actually driven a car with it and without it? Put it this way, I was coming in 5th/6th in a race sprint championship I'm in, I fit an LSD, practise with it and I'm winning every round. That's a hell of a difference.

Granted it only changes one aspect of a car, but it's abig aspect for me and something most enthusiasts will consider. I wasn't aware the first one had an LSD.
 
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Are you going on what Wiki says or have you actually driven a car with it and without it? Put it this way, I was coming in 5th/6th in a race sprint championship I'm in, I fit an LSD, practise with it and I'm winning every round. That's a hell of a difference.

Granted it only changes one aspect of a car, but it's abig aspect for me and something most enthusiasts will consider. I wasn't aware the first one had an LSD.
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What are you facepalming for? Pretty obvious the point he's getting at, if you've got a wallowy car or one that likes to hop, skip and jump at the sight of a grain of sand on the road an LSD on it's own will do nothing, if the fundamentals of a car are crap then the ability for traction in the corners will not even make a dent in turning it from poor to amazing.
 
Sorry but its a silly point.

You dont fit an LSD to a wallowy, rubbish handling car.

The entire point is that the types of car you WOULD fit and LSD to would be performance orientated anyway.

There is no doubt that an LSD can transform everything about the way a car drives, especially if its FWD. The way the car puts the power down through the corner has a DIRECT effect on its handling. Once you have an aggressive LSD biting into the tarmac, its going to change how the car is "set" for each corner.
 
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