I own an android phone and an iPhone, not like I'm completely biased is it, or never tried one. I also stated that it's not a fair comparison given the android phone that I have. Hardly fanatical
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I own an android phone and an iPhone, not like I'm completely biased is it, or never tried one. I also stated that it's not a fair comparison given the android phone that I have. Hardly fanatical
It depends what point of you, your looking at..
as the technical point of view it will be the galexy S hands down, that is unitl HTC bring out thier new desires.
but not everyone needs a galexy S as its too big or whatever other reason they might have.
I personaly have a HTC legand, not the best, but it does do its job and well, its all one can ask for, same for my pay and go back up andoird phone, they both do thier role well.
I think I would lean towards the desire through, becasue its a bit smaller ( easier to carry about) its fast enough, plus HTC sense, which I perfer.
if you want to use your phone for multi media and DON'T have a ipod or planning to get one, than Iphone. althrough andoird can do it fairly well.
as the technical point of view it will be the galexy S hands down, that is unitl HTC bring out thier new desires.
but not everyone needs a galexy S as its too big or whatever other reason they might have.
I personaly have a HTC legand, not the best, but it does do its job and well, its all one can ask for, same for my pay and go back up andoird phone, they both do thier role well.
I think I would lean towards the desire through, becasue its a bit smaller ( easier to carry about) its fast enough, plus HTC sense, which I perfer.
if you want to use your phone for multi media and DON'T have a ipod or planning to get one, than Iphone. althrough andoird can do it fairly well.
The iPhone is a good phone but it is to restrictive and not as customizable as a android based phone for me plus i love having widgets on the screen which is not possible with a iphone but i can appreciate the restictiveness does make for a smooth running phone which apps work together a little better. If you like things to just work and don't mind apples restrictiveness then go with a iphone 4, if you like to play and customize your phone just how you like it then get a SGS or wait for the HD.
Completely change the Android UI and its elements like adding new battery meters, enabling wireless-n, enabling better camera features, changing the Radio version to improve battery, reception, camera, install software from other devices that normally you wouldn't be able to do, system image backup including apps+ app data at will, pair bluetooth devices such as wiimotes and controllers to play games with, turn the phone into an ftp server, no need for a parent software installed on PC to manage the phone (iTunes), CHROME2PHONE (or the much better Firefox2Phone) - something iPhone does not have, and so on and so on.
Personally I can't see any of those as particually exciting or beneficial. I had Winmo for years and very quickly got tired of messing around with the gui / roms / radio firmware. If you're new to that though fair play, I guess I grew out of it.
I mean, using the phone as an FTP server, seriously? I just don't see the need for this. Regardless of this there are FTP server apps for the iPhone anyway.
Apart from dicking around with the gui I can't see any major advantage from your list and when jailbroken you can probably get fairly close if you really wanted to. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtm-D6NHIM8
Firefox2phone looks very similar to Firefox home: http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2010/07/15/get-firefox-home-on-your-iphone/ (I've only quickly scanned).
iTunes does a pretty decent backup and restore which includes apps and appdata.
I could go on
Firefox home is not the same. This just allows you to view your Firefox data on the iPhone and sync.
Chrome2Phone/Firefox2Phone allows sending of telephone data, sms, market, urls and clipboard data to the phone effectively allowing you to string out long messages/emails etc and then send them on the go as you can pull them to the Android notifcation tray one by one and then deal with them on the move when you have x amount of minutes free to do so.
You can also directly send satnav routing from google maps to the phone.
iTunes might do it pretty well but not everyone wants to install something as bulky as iTunes.
Fact is, Android just allows more control, not just more control but an almost unlimited amount of control, it's only limited to how far you really want to go (or be bothered to).
None of what I've said so far has been because of fanboy talk or whatever else Apple fanboys (see I can do it too) will no doubt continue to hark on about, it's something you can do if you're so inclined (and teh evidence is right in front of you) and if you're not the kind of person who likes to put a bit of effort into their gadgets then that's fine, iPhone it is....
"Dicking" around with the GUI is a pretty major aspect of customisation anyway as are homescreen widgets, that alone is proof enough on the most part and you only have to glance through a few mobile homescreen thread pages to see this.
Chrome2Phone/Firefox2Phone allows sending of telephone data, sms, market, urls and clipboard data to the phone effectively allowing you to string out long messages/emails etc and then send them on the go as you can pull them to the Android notifcation tray one by one and then deal with them on the move when you have x amount of minutes free to do so.
You can also directly send satnav routing from google maps to the phone.
iTunes might do it pretty well but not everyone wants to install something as bulky as iTunes.
Fact is, Android just allows more control, not just more control but an almost unlimited amount of control, it's only limited to how far you really want to go (or be bothered to).
None of what I've said so far has been because of fanboy talk or whatever else Apple fanboys (see I can do it too) will no doubt continue to hark on about, it's something you can do if you're so inclined (and teh evidence is right in front of you) and if you're not the kind of person who likes to put a bit of effort into their gadgets then that's fine, iPhone it is....
"Dicking" around with the GUI is a pretty major aspect of customisation anyway as are homescreen widgets, that alone is proof enough on the most part and you only have to glance through a few mobile homescreen thread pages to see this.
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Ah right, like I said only quickly scanned. I'd be surprised if there wasn't an app like that for the iPhone to be honest.
I personally don't understand the issue with iTunes, I install it, it works, I haven't really had any headaches with it? Maybe people are basing this on old versions? Who knows.
You're right about android allowing more control, but is this a good thing? If the reasons stated above are the argument, I'd have to say no.
I think if you speant a few months with the iPhone you'd probably be writing a very different list (or no list at all). I don't say this because I think iOS is better, but I often get the impression that most opinions are from androids users that simply haven't speant enough time with iOS or the particular apps available.
Of course changing the gui is the major aspect of customizing, but I refer back to my previous point- I personally got bored of this quickly. It was fun for a few months, that's for sure though...
I personally don't understand the issue with iTunes, I install it, it works, I haven't really had any headaches with it? Maybe people are basing this on old versions? Who knows.
You're right about android allowing more control, but is this a good thing? If the reasons stated above are the argument, I'd have to say no.
I think if you speant a few months with the iPhone you'd probably be writing a very different list (or no list at all). I don't say this because I think iOS is better, but I often get the impression that most opinions are from androids users that simply haven't speant enough time with iOS or the particular apps available.
Of course changing the gui is the major aspect of customizing, but I refer back to my previous point- I personally got bored of this quickly. It was fun for a few months, that's for sure though...
/runs to appbrain
No?
Neither are bad at all out of the box, you're putting a spin on the matter, how about being less Fox News?
I'm saying the scope of power is almost unlimited with Android but it has a limit with iPhone.
You can do many things that rival iPhone with handsets running SenseUI, it could be argued that stock Android doesn't offer as much in this regard and they'd be right but those who bought the Nexus 1 or are installing stock UI based ROMs for other handsets are the kind of people who are aware of the differences and are knowledgeable enough to be able to install apps and things that add to the feature set of SenseUI without SenseUI and so on.
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With all the pre-release love for the Desire HD (and it's nice BIG screen), does no-one else just think it's going to be physically too damned big? I've spent two days or so with my Galaxy S now, and whilst I love it to pieces at the moment, it's right on the cusp of being too big for a phone.
It's nice and slim, sure, but it's not exactly a comfortable fit in the pockets, and getting it out in the car wasn't easy by any means compared to my old Omnia (which was teh suck in many other ways, for sure).
I already worry that I might damage the phone stuffing it into the pockets of my tighter trousers (I'm not talking leg-hugging drainpipes here or anything, either...). Now, the Desire HD with a 4.3" screen? Surely that's going to be too big for anyone who's used to carrying a phone around in their jeans pockets? Kind of in a phone-tablet no-man's land imo.
It's nice and slim, sure, but it's not exactly a comfortable fit in the pockets, and getting it out in the car wasn't easy by any means compared to my old Omnia (which was teh suck in many other ways, for sure).
I already worry that I might damage the phone stuffing it into the pockets of my tighter trousers (I'm not talking leg-hugging drainpipes here or anything, either...). Now, the Desire HD with a 4.3" screen? Surely that's going to be too big for anyone who's used to carrying a phone around in their jeans pockets? Kind of in a phone-tablet no-man's land imo.
For people who have no interest in doing anything of what you mentioned, just want to have a phone, install some apps etc, what's the better os?
What I'm trying to establish is wether you need to use the scope of the phone to make it worthwhile, or is it a valid option as a phone out of the box?
What I'm trying to establish is wether you need to use the scope of the phone to make it worthwhile, or is it a valid option as a phone out of the box?
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I have that suspicion, but on the other hand, the larger the phone I can carry, the closer it will come to replacing my laptop on short trips. For a day or two, I'd rather take a large phone than a small laptop.
Android is, it's more powerful out of the box.
For example, free WiFi tether without requiring it to be unlocked by my network provider.
Google cloud syncing, without having to pay for MobileMe, Widgets, free Google Sat Nav to name but a few.
I like the iPhone, I had a 3GS with iOS4.0 but I find my Desire much more feature rich.
Example, if I'm at a conference at a hotel that has crap WiFi, I'll just wireless tether as I don't have the option of installing software onto the work laptop for USB Tethering.
For that criteria either a phone like the Desire/HD or an iPhone. It's really not hard. It's all user choice. You either get an iPhone because all your friends have one and you like the simplicity of the UI or you get a DesireHD/[other model here] because a few friends have one and it's something different but equally robust in OS features especially through the upcoming HTCSense.com which gives most/all of the iPhone features (lockdown. wipe etc) for free...
There is no question that Android with the Sense UI is more feature rich than iOS 4. That said, quite a lot of its features aren't ones that the general public would use, but even then its still better from that perspective.
The Android Market app store on the whole is not as good at the moment (that isn't to say its bad) and will only improve with time.
I have the iPhone 4 and use it at the moment over my Desire solely because the apps are slightly better, along with the hardware (the screen, the camera, HD video smoother, etc) being slightly better and I do like the design of it for a bit of a change.
I know a lot of people prefer the iPhone because they like the MobileMe integration and all those sorts of things between their computer and so on, but I believe you can quite easily achieve the same on Android/Google but you might require a bit more 'technical' knowledge, however, it is free, MobileMe isn't.
The Android Market app store on the whole is not as good at the moment (that isn't to say its bad) and will only improve with time.
I have the iPhone 4 and use it at the moment over my Desire solely because the apps are slightly better, along with the hardware (the screen, the camera, HD video smoother, etc) being slightly better and I do like the design of it for a bit of a change.
I know a lot of people prefer the iPhone because they like the MobileMe integration and all those sorts of things between their computer and so on, but I believe you can quite easily achieve the same on Android/Google but you might require a bit more 'technical' knowledge, however, it is free, MobileMe isn't.
