I'm guessing mean in relation to crime only?
Vigilante launching paedophile naming website
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I'm guessing mean in relation to crime only?
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It's a major problem, because you aren't supposed to sell a house without informing the sellars of issues like that if you know about them.
Solution, kill the beast () or sell the house to someone without a family and doesn't care about sick social deviants living next door and sharing the community.
I eventually made him move house. Quite simply.
I've noticed a lack of objectivity with those that are for such a list. Words like scum and beast.
They have a recognised medical condition. Only when they act on it is a crime committed.
There are plenty of people out there that do evil and depraved acts and yet nobody is asking for a list of these people?
I don't think child sexual abuse is a mental ilness so I can't see the comparison.
Also, perhaps the fact that people are so sensitive to this issue should be cause for the legal system to reconsider its stance? Why do we need to always consider that they way justice behaves is the optimal one and can't be improved/altered?
Apparently anything that has to do with children strikes a different chord with people and that should be investigated deeper by the state/justice system.
Perhaps it would offer the parents added security through warning their children specifically about those people? That's what I think it could be used for. Not that parents shouldn't warn them about any person, but that extra precaution wouldn't be bad.
Then we're succumbing to his definition of what a paedophile is as I'm not acutely aware of a legal definition (though criminal law isn't my forte).
I also question where he's pulling his number of paedophiles from. As according to his figures, 0.36% of the population are paedophiles. Saying that The Times put the number of people on the register at 29,973 (3) in 2005-2006 then we can only deduce that this bloke is speaking out of his rear. There just isn't any way that his figures can be anywhere near close reality if he is picking and choosing specifically one group of peop
Population = 62,041,708 (1)
Children (15 and under) formed 20.2 per cent of the population. (2)
20.2% of 62041708 = 12,532,425.
62041708 - 12532425 = 49,509,283.
180,000 of 49,509,283 = 0.36%.
1 - http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/tg...tion=1&footnotes=yes&labeling=labels&plugin=1
2 - http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/profiles/commentaries/people.asp
3 - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2170382.ece
I was angry about that one case and it wasn't even full scale proper abuse, however I am not 'emotionally involved' in this discussion.
It was over ten years ago, and well in the past.
The questions that hang over about the system remain, and your 'emotional' plea does nothing to answer the question on the rights of parents. I'm not even a parent!
I believe the rights of parents to protect their children outweigh the rights of protection from the state for those who predatorily seek out children for sexual gratification.
Don't know don't care.
I don't want 'he kissed a girl underage' to be announced. Only serious deviants.
In Spain, they tend to get hung from trees. I don't want that, but I think a childs right to a safe life is paramount.
Certainly over some twisted perverts right to leer at children in the street, content in the fact that they have state power protecting them.
This, is a clear example of you being an arse in all honesty.
I'll say one thing, I don't care what you have to say on this subject now. Secondly, what if those people portray themself as someone to trust?
Spend years working their way in with friendship, and give off no warning signs at all?
That's the parents fault?
Your a ******* heartless moron.
It is when the risks out way the benefit. which is exactly what such a list creats. you only ahve to look at the news and how many people have been wrong identified in the past.
what they should be doing is campaigning for a change of law, to longer prison sentences or a number of other things for certain groups.
No it's a risk that society has to accept or change the law, to something like life (proper life) in imprisonment.
There however is always risk, it's a balance between minimising it, whilst not increasing other risks, such as misidentified people being killed, beaten or whatever.
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That's a crime. Having sexual thoughts but not acting on them is not. That's what paedophilia is.
Good job you don't want to live or go to the US then
Sure because there is no way the UK would implement knee jerk laws is there?
Whats the medical condition then?
Well, the people I am talking about have commited sexual crime. Regardless of what you think, or any cereberal mix ups they are still beasts.
It may be an old term, but is quite applicable I feel.
They aren't men, or women, I feel horrid thinking of them as people or humans. So 'beast' will do.
It's no more offensive than calling a cow bovine, it's just a non malicious point of view.
I'm sure if I met a beast in the street, he'd have more to contend himself with than just the word 'beast'.
I don't like people who pick on those smaller than them.
I am talking about a duty of care over children, but you raise a fair point. The backlash against sexual crimes almost guarantees more protection from these sorts of
"Father-of two Chris said: ”It is not just about naming and shaming but also to provide support for all survivors of abuse."
I also take issue with this, as I suggest that many people won't want reminded of all this yet again. Quite the opposite, they will want to forget about it after they have dealt with and got any help that they need for that. By bringing this register in place it will cause unnecessary stress on the victim as they will have to live through it all again. And for what? So a few people can get their knickers in a twist?
I also take issue with this, as I suggest that many people won't want reminded of all this yet again. Quite the opposite, they will want to forget about it after they have dealt with and got any help that they need for that. By bringing this register in place it will cause unnecessary stress on the victim as they will have to live through it all again. And for what? So a few people can get their knickers in a twist?
Children tend to get prioritized above all else strangely enough, hence the coalition of hatred towards toilet floaters like Roy Whiting and Ian huntley.
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Tell you what why don't we all keep our children locked indoor until they are 18?
After all anybody could be a danger to them.
Oh and Acid did not deserve that personal insult. He has eloquently argued his side of the debate.
Then campaign for better sensible laws. Not accept knee jerk crazy vigilante lists, that cause far more harm than good and aren't even targeted at "beasts"
I wasn't referring to the usage of this unregulated website but to something akin to the US style of online register where you can see details of the people (along with addresses) which minimises any risk of vigilante justice (I suppose, don't have any such figures on US to judge).
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Yes but it gets done without looking at the problem dispassionately and hence we get both people like in the OP publishing a list that may cause a lot more harm than good and knee jerk laws from Governments.
Of course it is everybody's interests to protect children.
However in your world it is also just black & white.
All pedophiles will commit a crime, it will happen sooner than later.
They cannot be rehabilitated - end of.
And you accuse other people of living in a black & white world?
I've haven't once said that I condone this list, I don't think it should be moderated by an indiviual.
I can see it ending badly, but I do think that parents near child molesters should know about it, but it should be Government regulated, like in the states.