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Of course, im sure Steve Jobs wouldn't worry about buying top-spec Mac Pro's for the bathrooms in his house.
But for bang for buck, i think Windows based PCs give you more.
Mac vs PC, is there any difference apart from the OS?
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Of course, im sure Steve Jobs wouldn't worry about buying top-spec Mac Pro's for the bathrooms in his house.
But for bang for buck, i think Windows based PCs give you more.
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Performance wise maybe so but this is a overclockers forum who looks for bang for bunk. Apple owners rarely look for that...
But find me a 15" Laptop that WILL do 8 hours on a battery charge?
[Yes, I have got 8 hours out of my i5 MacBook Pro]
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Show me where your going to be using a Laptop for 8 hours and your not going to see a plug
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Acer timelines will do that. Granted they are not as powerful, but they are also 2 - 3 times cheaper.
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Show me where your going to be using a Laptop for 8 hours and your not going to see a plug
9-5 lectures
That's with brightness at 50% and WiFi on.
Granted it's not doing something stupidly difficult but my mates £1k Dell will barely do 4 hours with brightness at minimum.
Yes because a C2D laptop with a 1366x768 15" screen and intel integrated graphics is any match to my i5 and GT330?
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That's with brightness at 50% and WiFi on.
Granted it's not doing something stupidly difficult but my mates £1k Dell will barely do 4 hours with brightness at minimum.
Fair point
Something else a Mac-fag never does, knows when he's defeated lol
Think i've used my can opener with this thread
I own a Macbook Pro and a Windows PC and I can summarise it in this.
If I wanted to play games, i'd use my PC.
If I wanted to do work, i'd use my Macbook Pro
If I wanted to watch a movie/surfweb/video, it would be the Macbook pro.
I don't think you can ever understand an Apple machine until you use one. The best things about the MacBook pro for me, is the fast boot times and shut down time, old laptop that was massively more powerful couldn't do it that fast. Instant resume for standby (Never ever shut the MacBook down, unless restarting, which I very rarely have to do) Uninstalling applications is easy and the bundled software is actually useful, aluminum casing takes one hell of a beating before anything gets damaged. The OS, once accustomed to in my opinion is just like linux, but more user friendly and with better application support from large companies like Adobe. Also you have to consider the excellent technical support, but you should also consider that the machines don't even break that often, at least, not in my case. You also know what you're getting, whereas with Windows, you can get all sorts of mishaps, for example, old XP laptops with no updated drivers for Vista.
Though with a PC you get better value for money, and you have the ability to game, but if I had to choose between the best overall machine, despite the lower power of Macbooks and the inflated price, i'd still take the Macbook.
But like mentioned earlier, some people would never buy a Kia because its a Kia. They would always prefer a BMW etc, even if functionality wise, it wasn't as good.
If I wanted to play games, i'd use my PC.
If I wanted to do work, i'd use my Macbook Pro
If I wanted to watch a movie/surfweb/video, it would be the Macbook pro.
I don't think you can ever understand an Apple machine until you use one. The best things about the MacBook pro for me, is the fast boot times and shut down time, old laptop that was massively more powerful couldn't do it that fast. Instant resume for standby (Never ever shut the MacBook down, unless restarting, which I very rarely have to do) Uninstalling applications is easy and the bundled software is actually useful, aluminum casing takes one hell of a beating before anything gets damaged. The OS, once accustomed to in my opinion is just like linux, but more user friendly and with better application support from large companies like Adobe. Also you have to consider the excellent technical support, but you should also consider that the machines don't even break that often, at least, not in my case. You also know what you're getting, whereas with Windows, you can get all sorts of mishaps, for example, old XP laptops with no updated drivers for Vista.
Though with a PC you get better value for money, and you have the ability to game, but if I had to choose between the best overall machine, despite the lower power of Macbooks and the inflated price, i'd still take the Macbook.
But like mentioned earlier, some people would never buy a Kia because its a Kia. They would always prefer a BMW etc, even if functionality wise, it wasn't as good.
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We have macs at uni, I always boot them into windows and bring my own mouse.
This thread is going to get ugly, don't really see the point of it.
This thread is going to get ugly, don't really see the point of it.
Lies tbh, everybody knows that Logitech is KING of customer service.
Since Macs have adopted Intel processors I wouldn't have thought there's anything in it apart from prestige and a nice apple shaped logo which glows in the dark. Prior to the switch to Intel it could be argued the processors were geared towards the types of application you'd expect to run on Macs (lots of render intensive stuff).
My other half worked in an architects using 3DMax and CAD/ADT and they all used PCs.
I have toyed with the idea of getting a Mac Book just for my web design stuff - might look better when meeting clients
My other half worked in an architects using 3DMax and CAD/ADT and they all used PCs.
I have toyed with the idea of getting a Mac Book just for my web design stuff - might look better when meeting clients
rubbish ! my favorite mac myth infact
im typing on a mac now and have a new iphone next to me but i can never agree with that
my macbook with applecare breaks and i have to post it across the country or drive it to my nearest apple shop (an hour away)
if a dell with their care equivalent breaks someone comes to your house with a van full of spare parts and screwdriver set !
you get half decent customer service yes. but only because you pay for it. you get exactly the same and sometimes better from any other big laptop or pc manufacturer
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Yes because a C2D laptop with a 1366x768 15" screen and intel integrated graphics is any match to my i5 and GT330?
I think you can get ones with an ati card in. However, what are you doing in lectures that you need an i5 and gt330?
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Nothing in lectures.
But the labs where I am doing computational fluid dynamics/finite element analysis or CAD they come in quite useful.
Granted battery life drops to 4/5 hours doing all that.
The trick is the ability to switch between good battery life/performance.
Your acer can do one, but not the other...
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Yes, they use BIOS. On top of BIOS they use EFI. Lots of people confuse the terminology and functionality of these two. EFI is a layer on top of BIOS, that acts as an interface between OS and BIOS. And yes, you can get intel motherboards out there with EFI. It is not something very hard to find and there are good reasons that it has not beed quickly adopted on PCs but I will not be discussing this right now.
Yea, it is a breach of the EULA. I expect in a couple of years that will be sorted via legal battles, assuming Apple continues to gain market share and carries on with iron fisted monopolistic practices. Honestly, they are far worse than MS ever was.
Yes, you do not get a fully functional Hackintosh system most of the time however I can say the same about my MBP. If I try to use it for anything intensive, it gets too hot to touch and generally way to uncomfortable to use. And this is a "Pro" machine, mind you. If their Pro machine is not designed to function at high loads then I dread to think of their other products.
And to add a cherry on top, a full spec Mac Pro is actually far more expensive and slower than a PC with a single hexacore Intel CPU. Don't believe me? Check out benchmarks on 3D rendering and Photoshop. Quite humiliating for Apple really.
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Apple do better adverts than windows.
But at least I could run the latest iTunes on my old XP laptop unlike my old Mac Mini which requires me having to fork out £80 or so for an OS upgrade
To expand on cmndr_andi's comments with regards to major applications on the mac... In a corporate environment say for example an accountancy practice you would be hard pushed to use a mac sucessfully. Mac office suite (2008) is cut down pretty severly which prevents the use of macros and VBA (to my understanding this is an OS limitation on running user created code), they also require some serious fiddling for decent ODBC linking into databases. To get around this people normally go down the boot camp or Fusion route which works well enough but still means a lot of fiddling and running a windows OS on your mac.
On the other hand walk into a design studio or a recording studio and your more than likely to stumble across a few macs... What I am trying to say is that everything has its place and Macs are no exception, granted the hardware is expensive but for the most part its good quality and well designed hardware which demands a premium.
On the other hand walk into a design studio or a recording studio and your more than likely to stumble across a few macs... What I am trying to say is that everything has its place and Macs are no exception, granted the hardware is expensive but for the most part its good quality and well designed hardware which demands a premium.