7 posts + question like this (sort of thing that invokes strong arguements from "both sides") = troll
Troll.
- Pea0n
Correct.
7 posts + question like this (sort of thing that invokes strong arguements from "both sides") = troll
Troll.
- Pea0n
I didn't see it in honesty but will provide my thoughts on what you've said.
The fact there is more food than the world needs does not stop the fact there are people starving round the globe and loads of food is going to waste. This happens with vegetables as well as meat.
The transportation of meat products (be that cattle or steaks) can't surely have that big an effect on pollution? Removing meat from everyone's diets (were it possible to just make everyone a vegetarian at the flick of a switch) would just massively increase the transportation of vegetables to similar end results to what is currently happening would it not?
About all you'd gain would be less methane etc. from animals as there would be less of them.
I agree, meat as part of a healthy diet can be good for you as well, and tasty, but my point is it's not needed for you to live a healthy life, that being the case it boils down to taste, just because people love the taste of meat we have the Amazon Rain forest being chopped down by hundreds of acres everyday for soya crops for animal feed, pollution by an unprecedented level, people over indulging in meat causing heart disease at an also unprecedented level, and we are not even touching on animal cruelty yet, the list goes on.
All because people enjoy the taste of meat, I just don't see any real beneficial reasons for it on a 'mass scale', I understand that in some places it still may be a more source-able food which is understandable, I don't condemn that at all, but in a society where we can easily grow vegetables and survive healthy on a vegetarian diet I just don't see the point other than to save jobs and make money obviously.
I guess, just with plants you have to transport them somewhere to convert them into feed, then transport them to wherever the cattle are kept, then transport the cattle around the world. Would it not be far better to simply transport the plants all around the world?
Well, I assume I was missing more than just the killing chicks thing if the OP has been banned! I was quite enjoying the debate personally, I thought it quite an intelligent thread! Ah well![]()
Indeed, as was I, still, there are plenty of sensible people here that are/have been continuing the/a debate.![]()
Indeed, looking back over all their posts i really fail to see how any sort of punishment was justified?
Indeed, looking back over all their posts i really fail to see how any sort of punishment was justified?
1. Animals are not property and we have no right to subordinate and dominate for our own ends.
Therefore I dont see how anyone can be a vegetarian for ethical reasons.
Anyhow - in reference to the chicks being killed during the egg laying process due to them not being female. That doesn't really put me personally off eating eggs at all.
I am a vegan, for a very simple reason.
1. Animals are not property and we have no right to subordinate and dominate for our own ends.
Therefore, I refuse to eat eggs and dairy since the latter involves life long enslavement and the former involves killing every male chick (approx half of all chicks).
Therefore I dont see how anyone can be a vegetarian for ethical reasons.
I'm interested to see how all your vegetarians out there view it, why are you a vegetarian?
Thanks
I was intrigued as to how the OP suggests you sex eggs (Work out if they are male or female) as from the way they were saying it, eggs are destroyed before they hatch...which is impossible to sex them as far as I'm concerned....unless they have some special machines for this.
As far as I was aware it is done when they have hatched and are young chicks, nothing to do with the egg laying process at all.
people over indulging in meat causing heart disease at an also unprecedented level,
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Compared to vegetarians/vegans who have a much harder time of having a balanced diet and really have to watch and learn what to eat, to insure nutritional balance.
That's a common misconception, a healthy vegetarian diet is easy, the only thing vegetables don't have is B12 which is in fortified cereals and dairy products or available as a supplement.
That's a common misconception, a healthy vegetarian diet is easy, the only thing vegetables don't have is B12 which is in fortified cereals and dairy products or available as a supplement.
Indeed, looking back over all their posts i really fail to see how any sort of punishment was justified?