UK government proposes to block all Internet porn as standard
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Although this is in reality a non-story it does prove something: The modern parent is a lazy git.
As a parent it is not the governments job to censor what your children see on the Internet, TV, in books or what they wear.
It is the job of the parent(s)
Stop being lazy and blaming everybody but yourself...
As a parent it is not the governments job to censor what your children see on the Internet, TV, in books or what they wear.
It is the job of the parent(s)
Stop being lazy and blaming everybody but yourself...
Bit of an over simplification there really.Modern parents aren't intrinsically lazy.Whilst I agree that it is the parent's job to make sure their children are safe there are those that are sadly ignorant of the way the internet works.Yes, I know it seems the internet has been around since the dawn of time,but the fact remains it hasn't and there are still people in the 50+ bracket who are ignorant of a lot of the dangers.
This doesn't absolve them of responsibility,but it will help those who would find it difficult to help themselves.
And to be fair,I haven't read anything regarding parent groups blaming anyone.Isn't it the government yet again telling us all would we should be afraid of?
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On the face of it that sounds like an OK idea. But then you have to think about who will define what porn is? Us, America, Iran? And then who gets which names in the new TLD?
And that's before you even think about the businesses that may trade in "accessories" without offering sexual content.
It has been the job of governing bodies to restrict inappropriate material from children for decades. Film certifications, for example.
But I also agree, it is very much the parents' responsibility to monitor what their child can/can't see.
There are many books out there I'm sure you wouldn't want children reading, I don't see any restrictions on buying those. There's a whole lot of art that isn't very nice but I don't see them stopping people entering the galleries.
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Yes it really should be filtered some how. Children don't have 24/7 supervision from their parents... and Internet access can be somewhat got anywhere these days.
Why is it the parents fault? What are they going to do, put a dog lead on their children and follow there every move? I don't think so. The filtering needs to be done to somewhat top level here so people don't need 24/7 watch.
There should be a lot more things restricted here not just porn. Yes, its up to people if they wanna watch abit porn and jack off now and again, however someone still has to be responsible here.
This is all about protecting children under 16. The more it's open the more it's easier to access this content. Look at the under 16 birth rate now....
And yet we still have certifications on films, magazines, etc. I don't see why you are shirking around this point?
OfCom, BBFC, etc. - It is their very job description to monitor, classify and govern what is appropriate and what is not.
I have to disagree, quite the opposite in my opinion.
Generally speaking the more you refuse to tell someone about something or 'palm it off' whenever asked the more curious that person is likely to become.
We recieved sex-ed when I was in secondary school in around year 10/11 so about 5/6 years ago now and it was quite comprehensive and not at all embarassing. It was much more than just a 5 minute chat with a teacher infact I think we spent several of our 'Lifeskills' lesson periods focusing on it.
It's much better to be educated on the matter, to use contraceptives and actually understand what you're doing than to have no idea at all.
Refusing to educate people won't stop it happening.
The user that suggested 'opting out' of content you didn't want displayed on your internet connection would probaly be more favourable amongst those who didn't want to ask their ISP for the pornz.
Quite often discovering porn was due to one of your friends finding a discarded magazine in the woods
I don't think porn is anymore damaging than smoking, alcohol and drugs personally.
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Because they're very different consumption experiences and I think the Internet is more like a library.And yet we still have certifications on films, magazines, etc. I don't see why you are shirking around this point?
OfCom, BBFC, etc. - It is their very job description to monitor, classify and govern what is appropriate and what is not.
The fact that only certain specific materials are licensed doesn't imply the same should be done in other cases.
ATTENTION!
Just Google'd that and it's a picture of a young naked girl...
Not saying it should be banned necessarily but you shouldn't bring up something like that without some sort of warning.
good lord phone the police
Really? Can it? Don't let your kids have a smart phone, don't let them have a computer in their bedrooms. Where are they going to access the internet? School? In a library? I don't think you'll find many people in those places browsing porn.
You have to define what is going to qualify first, and how often do people genuinely accidentally find porn? If they're young enough to not understand and watch it they probably shouldn't be using the net unattended, if they're old enough they'll just close it.
Those "certain specific materials" have a definitive market for what can only be describe as sexual content, much like the biggest industry on the internet is .. sexual content. They are so alarmingly similar it is futile to argue they are not.
However, as I said in my first reply, I do believe it is the responsibility of parents to monitor their children, without a doubt.
I really can't see the point behind such an initiative. Parents are responsible for what their children watch/hear/read and they have all the necessary software tools to monitor and restrain access to what their children do on the internet if they want to.
Having said that, I can't recall any serial killer/rapist blaming his actions on his web surfing habits...
Having said that, I can't recall any serial killer/rapist blaming his actions on his web surfing habits...
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Theres porn on youtube, does that mean the whole site will get blocked? Don't think they would be happy with the amount of traffic they would lose
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Yes but how many parents let their children watch 18/15 movies they own or have rented?
I should imagine pornographic websites have disclaimers before you enter...
Yes they are. If they don't understand the subject then they should at least make an effort to learn the basics.
You don't need to be a technical expert to have the computer in the living room with the adults and impose strict policies on the time it is used.
Sure there may be some things the kids can get away with using a setup like this but that's children for you.
However all this takes effort. The easy way is to give little Johnny a laptop and let him do as he pleases because you get some peace and quiet and can watch Eastenders.
You see it every time something bad happens. "Why oh why didn't the Government regulate x - Think of the children"