Yet another fail thread... replacement cheapskate car!

InvaderGIR · 5 Jan 2011 at 21:27

I may not have worded that too well, granted.

Fr0dders · 5 Jan 2011 at 21:32

[TW]Fox;18151301 said:
What a crappy environment obsessed world we live in when an engine like that can 'beat' a V8 or a twin turbo inline six to an award

the AMG 6.2 won the performance engine of the year

Thats the one that really matters

Gaygle · 5 Jan 2011 at 21:34

£180 for any car is....pretty damn good! Wait, no, it's bloody brilliant. Doesn't matter that it's a Rover, doesn't matter that i might be a bit tatty - it's a car for £180. As long as the engine starts, it should be counted as a Bangernomics victory!

And you've even fixed most issues that the car had! As long as you don't start spending money fixing it - you're golden!

Participant · 5 Jan 2011 at 21:36

Howard said:
I also have a Mondeo with no turbochargers, that would tear your Golf a new one, in most respects. But oh no, it doesn't get 40MPG. Boo hoo, it costed about ten grand less.

You don't half bring this stuff on yourself

You drive a Ford Mondeo and a Mazda! I'd pay 17 grand to avoid that, V6 or not!

[TW]Fox;18151301 said:
What a crappy environment obsessed world we live in when an engine like that can 'beat' a V8 or a twin turbo inline six to an award

You really need to get with the modern age. Much of humanity has now progressed beyond the need for having massive capacity engines that consume ludicrous amounts of fuel. I'm no hippy by any stretch, but in ten years there won't be any 6 litre V8s for sale let alone winning awards.

Howard · 5 Jan 2011 at 21:38

Robbie G said:
You drive a Ford Mondeo and a Mazda! I'd pay 17 grand to avoid that, V6 or not!

I hate to be the one to break this news to you, and it probably comes as a bit of a shock, but you drive a Volkswagen.

Janesy B · 5 Jan 2011 at 21:39

Aww Robbie, there's no need to go all on the defence, I'm sure you have your specific reasons for buying the Golf. Like Senile Dementia.

Gaygle · 5 Jan 2011 at 21:40

Robbie G said:
You drive a Ford Mondeo and a Mazda!

You say that as if you drive a Bentley or something?

Robbie G said:
You really need to get with the modern age. Much of humanity has now progressed beyond the need for having massive capacity engines that consume ludicrous amounts of fuel. I'm no hippy by any stretch, but in ten years there won't be any 6 litre V8s for sale let alone winning awards.

Perhaps? What a 6 litre V8 loses in fuel economy it more than makes up in character, noise, grin factor and laziness - something which a 1.4l turbo engine has none of.

Aleksandrs · 5 Jan 2011 at 21:46

I've been driving my Rover for over a year now. It's only an ickle 214 16v (105bhp when new) and it cost me 350 quid. about 9k miles of not exactly treating it too well later, and its still soldiering on without much of a fuss. It's now at like 114,000 miles I think. All I've spent on it was 30 quid for a new HG, and £60 to get a mate to fit it for me.

Rovers on the outside aren't really lookers, but they sure as hell are nice places to be inside of, compared to other cheap cars you can get. And £180 for a 200bhp comfortable cruiser, which is relatively cheap to look after... you really can't go wrong with that at all. I wished I could find a deal like that!

Participant · 5 Jan 2011 at 21:55

Gaygle said:
What a 6 litre V8 loses in fuel economy it more than makes up in character, noise, grin factor and laziness

No it doesn't though. Not for the average man.

What do you mean laziness anyway? I put my car in D and reach 60 in 8 seconds by putting my right foot down. I then get 450 miles for £50 of petrol. How much lazier can you get?

If I wanted a car for fun at weekends then I could get one, but this is for the odd 8 mile return commute on a 50mph road. A large engined car with large engined servicing costs would be entirely wasted on me, let alone a plebby one like a Ford Mondeo.

[TW]Fox · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:01

Robbie G said:
You really need to get with the modern age. Much of humanity has now progressed beyond the need for having massive capacity engines that consume ludicrous amounts of fuel.

3 litres engines neither consume ludicrous amounts of fuel nor are massive in capacity. They are also far less compromised than engines developing just 170bhp.

Fr0dders · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:02

[TW]Fox;18151780 said:
3 litres engines neither consume ludicrous amounts of fuel nor are massive in capacity. They are also far less compromised than engines developing just 170bhp.

no expensive turbos or superchargers to go wrong for a start.

Participant · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:02

Lol compromised. The service technician compromises my buttcheeks when I ask him to service my 6 litre V8.

Gaygle · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:02

Robbie G said:
No it doesn't though. Not for the average man.

No of course, because fuel economy is EVERYTHING these days. Some people sell their old 2.0 Mondeo that does 35mpg and buy a POS tiny Kia for thousands just because the Kia get's like 8mpg more. People buy brand new diesel cars....and do 4000 miles a year in them. Why? Because "IT GETS 45MPG!!!!!"

Robbie G said:
What do you mean laziness anyway? I put my car in D and reach 60 in 8 seconds by putting my right foot down. I then get 450 miles for £50 of petrol. How much lazier can you get?

I was talking about the characteristic of a V8 engine usually being very torquey.

Robbie G said:
If I wanted a car for fun at weekends then I could get one, but this is for the odd 8 mile return commute on a 50mph road. A large engined car with large engined servicing costs would be entirely wasted on me, let alone a plebby one like a Ford Mondeo.

I agree. But that is what differentiates a car enthusiast from yourself. I/we are prepared to pay more to drive a good car.

[TW]Fox · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:04

Robbie G said:
Lol compromised. The service technician compromises my buttcheeks when I ask him to service my 6 litre V8.

I can't think of many 6 litre V8's, the first that springs to mind is that found in the VXR8.

As you seem to know, how much is a service for one of those? I was always under the impression that the large displacement V8's were actually very reasonable to service as they were typically rather unstressed, being developed for the US market where cars often go 100,000 miles between proper services, receiving only oil changes between that.

Howard · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:04

Robbie G said:
Lol compromised. The service technician compromises my buttcheeks when I ask him to service my 6 litre V8.

You'll eat your words when 3 years down the line the turbo goes pop or all your complicated direct injection clobber takes a huge crap

Joshy · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:05

Is this 'serious' or just one of those motors things I haven't been around long enough to understand?

Anyway, I wonder if the people who wet themselves over twincharging realize that it was implemented in a Nissan Micra a whole 20 years ago?

Participant · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:09

Joshy said:
Is this 'serious' or just one of those motors things I haven't been around long enough to understand?

Anyway, I wonder if the people who wet themselves over twincharging realize that it was implemented in a Nissan Micra a whole 20 years ago?

And man invented bonfires thousands of years ago so therefore nuclear weapons are old news.

Typical Joshy tangent.

Fr0dders · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:09

[TW]Fox;18151822 said:
I can't think of many 6 litre V8's, the first that springs to mind is that found in the VXR8.

As you seem to know, how much is a service for one of those? I was always under the impression that the large displacement V8's were actually very reasonable to service as they were typically rather unstressed, being developed for the US market where cars often go 100,000 miles between proper services, receiving only oil changes between that.

Have you seen the projected servicing costs for the Corvette ZR1 ?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/facts_and_figures.php?id=239389

Supercharged 6.2 V8

and its services are ?

£153 for the 1st service / £360 for the 2nd / £145 for the 3rd

They are so cheap to run its hilarious.

Janesy B · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:09

Look at the service schedule on this 6 litre V8: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=18064757&postcount=386

SHOCKING!

Participant · 5 Jan 2011 at 22:10

[TW]Fox;18151822 said:
I can't think of many 6 litre V8's, the first that springs to mind is that found in the VXR8.

As you seem to know, how much is a service for one of those? I was always under the impression that the large displacement V8's were actually very reasonable to service as they were typically rather unstressed, being developed for the US market where cars often go 100,000 miles between proper services, receiving only oil changes between that.

No idea, I assume much more than it is to service a crappy little 1.4.

Howard said:
You'll eat your words when 3 years down the line the turbo goes pop or all your complicated direct injection clobber takes a huge crap

I won't because I'll have a warranty

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